Randy Lerner - Discuss

[dave.woodhall]

Why cant he find another hobby, the twat.

Ten or so years ago everyone would have wanted Ridsdale running their club. I remember our supporters applauding him when Leeds played here.

[cdward]

Randy, take a look at the latest stats re: Bent having the fewest touches per game than any other PL striker, if that doesn't tell you what is going on with this manager then i will. We will continue to play rubbish football, good players will leave, gates will reduce, match day revenue  will be down, AM will make our assets (players) worthless, and we will finish lower than last season. This will continue until the manager changes. 

I flew over for the match this weekend with my family, due to the changed kick off time we were double booked with a Xmas pantomime, so I decided to not let my family down and miss the match instead. My judgement was proved correct, and every other Villa fan that does not have a season ticket will at some stage do the same.
As performances stand I cannot see me being back at VP for some time. The supporters club in Dublin had 8 people watching in the pub, 2 years ago about 200 watched the cup final.
I hope you realise what is happening to this club, if you don't listen to the fans the balance sheet will soon tell you what is happening.

[Iago]

I flew over for the match this weekend with my family, due to the changed kick off time we were double booked with a Xmas pantomime, so I decided to not let my family down and miss the match instead. My judgement was proved correct, and every other Villa fan that does not have a season ticket will at some stage do the same.
As performances stand I cannot see me being back at VP for some time. The supporters club in Dublin had 8 people watching in the pub, 2 years ago about 200 watched the cup final.
I hope you realise what is happening to this club, if you don't listen to the fans the balance sheet will soon tell you what is happening.

How was the pantomime? 

[paulcomben]

There's a football manager in the home dugout.  Oh no there isn't.  Alex: Where are my great footballing achievements?  Crowd: Behind you!

[Chico Hamilton III]

How was the pantomime?

we lost 1-0

[TimTheVillain]

Randy, take a look at the latest stats re: Bent having the fewest touches per game than any other PL striker, if that doesn't tell you what is going on with this manager then i will. We will continue to play rubbish football, good players will leave, gates will reduce, match day revenue  will be down, AM will make our assets (players) worthless, and we will finish lower than last season. This will continue until the manager changes. 

I flew over for the match this weekend with my family, due to the changed kick off time we were double booked with a Xmas pantomime, so I decided to not let my family down and miss the match instead. My judgement was proved correct, and every other Villa fan that does not have a season ticket will at some stage do the same.
As performances stand I cannot see me being back at VP for some time. The supporters club in Dublin had 8 people watching in the pub, 2 years ago about 200 watched the cup final.
I hope you realise what is happening to this club, if you don't listen to the fans the balance sheet will soon tell you what is happening.

Good old Deloitte - they'll be on the case I'm sure.

I think Randy's 'toy' is looking like it's been tossed up into the loft.

He either has to sell up or put more cash in and appoint a Manager like Mark Hughes before we well and truly sink into being the most appallingly run / managed club around.

Not forgetting a football team that will lose its fans and be playing Championship football if not next season, the season after.

[Greg N'Ash]

Putting aside AM for a second though, do you think we're 1 or two players away from having a decent team? I don't. So if a new guy comes in he'll have exactly the same problems AM has and GH had. The strike force is probably one of the best outside the top 4, but there's no cover at all. The defence is barely adequate, and the midfield is rubbish, I'd say to get a decent team and when i say decent i mean best of the rest type decent would require probably 4 or 5 first teamers and not far off the same in cover. Not gonna happen whoever the manager is

I actually think we are a decent side Greg. We just don't have the confidence to show that. We have internationals all throughout our team, or at least players that have played at that level. I don't think Newcastle have a better defence on paper than us, but tactically they got it right. Mind you they are going to be fucked now with their injuries. I don't think McLeish has given them the belief to go after it every game. Even in games we should be dominating we play very conservatively and timidly. I can somewhat accept that mindset against the best teams, but not against QPR or Swansea etc.

In my opinion AM has to change entirely how he approaches every game. It's not a shock to me that we generally play better in the 2nd half of games, because in the first half the team comes out without any belief or desire because the manager has stressed a defence first mentality. Only when we are behind do we open up a little. I think a manager with a more aggressive approach to games will find that he has the players at the club today to play a more expansive style.

Again depends on your definition of "decent". We were only a best of the rest type team when we were in the moneybags years, so a team minus, Milner, Barry, Young, Downing, and with a past it Petrov must have declined significantly, especially given the other less important player's departures that have depleted the squad depth.

I agree we could be playing better, but i'm not sure how much improvement league position wise from last season is possible, especially when you consider a few injuries and we'll be really struggling. Looking at the table and everyone from stoke down to wigan bottom are pretty much interchangeable, with 9 points between them. I'm not sure i'd class any of 'em as decent barring Everton who i suspect will slowly climb above stoke

[Risso]

Why cant he find another hobby, the twat.

Ten or so years ago everyone would have wanted Ridsdale running their club. I remember our supporters applauding him when Leeds played here.

Five years ago, lots of fans of other teams wanted Lerner.  They don't any more.

[Rick_avfc]

The more and more I think about this (AVFC situation and owner), the more and more I feel that RL should sell up and move on.  He tried and invested a lot of his own money but clearly, the ambition is no longer there.  HE has done some very good things for this club and that wont be forgotten however, nor with the fact that he went against the fans and hired our rival's manager and paid bloody compensation for him, which is even worse! 
Ok, so he made that decision to hire him but he should have backed him like he did with MON.  I'm not saying that he should of handed him £100M for players but at least could have financed him a bit more to buy at least another 3/4 players with real quality and then build on from their by slowly incorporating the youth players to help them develop.  Instead, he made drastic cost cutting measures and has basically said that the youth players must be used more often but as we all know, they are not up to the task of playing week in week out and performing at a consistent basis while maintaining a decent position in the league and creating a gap between us and the teams below us.
A part of me still thinks he will sell up soon.  I think they are using the FFP rule as an excuse to get their books in order to sell us on to a potential suitor who can provide better investment to take us forward.

[TonyD]

I'd still like to know how two relegations in three years, regardless of winning the league cup remotely qualifies you to be Aston Villa manager. I'm still as staggered by the appointment as I was when it occurred. It was just madness.

I know. How did it happen?  No decent sized club would get away with such a bad appointment.

[Mister E]

I've tried to publicise the issues here - feel free to read and score (10 would be good).

[Vanilla]

Why cant he find another hobby, the twat.

Ten or so years ago everyone would have wanted Ridsdale running their club. I remember our supporters applauding him when Leeds played here.

That northern team who play in white are always held up as the example to all, whenever ambition is discussed.

I'm sure most owners keep the reference as a get out of jail free card to negate mutterings amongst any disgruntled fans. 

[Chris Smith]

Putting aside AM for a second though, do you think we're 1 or two players away from having a decent team? I don't. So if a new guy comes in he'll have exactly the same problems AM has and GH had. The strike force is probably one of the best outside the top 4, but there's no cover at all. The defence is barely adequate, and the midfield is rubbish, I'd say to get a decent team and when i say decent i mean best of the rest type decent would require probably 4 or 5 first teamers and not far off the same in cover. Not gonna happen whoever the manager is

I think we are only a couple away. The defence is fine, for all the shit they get the goals conceded column is pretty healthy compared to many teams. The best in the league have conceded 13, we've let in 18.

We've got two top class strikers but it's the midfiled that doesn't work. There are some decent individuals but they haven't clicked as a unit. I said yesterday put Scott Parker in our side and we'd improve immediately as he'd bring out the best in those around him.

[Concrete John]

Putting aside AM for a second though, do you think we're 1 or two players away from having a decent team? I don't. So if a new guy comes in he'll have exactly the same problems AM has and GH had. The strike force is probably one of the best outside the top 4, but there's no cover at all. The defence is barely adequate, and the midfield is rubbish, I'd say to get a decent team and when i say decent i mean best of the rest type decent would require probably 4 or 5 first teamers and not far off the same in cover. Not gonna happen whoever the manager is

I think we are only a couple away. The defence is fine, for all the shit they get the goals conceded column is pretty healthy compared to many teams. The best in the league have conceded 13, we've let in 18.

We've got two top class strikers but it's the midfiled that doesn't work. There are some decent individuals but they haven't clicked as a unit. I said yesterday put Scott Parker in our side and we'd improve immediately as he'd bring out the best in those around him.

I'm not too sure.

We may not have had it under MON when we were 'up there', but fullbacks getting forward are a big part of the modern game and ours look pretty naff at the moment.  And if we were to play a more attacking and expansive game, then the defence would need to cope without as much cover from the midfield, which would concern me.

But I do agree that the Parker-style player is what we most need and other areas may improve as a result.
 

[KevinGage]

He has no idea how to run a football club, but it's not about him being American. It's about him struggling to run a piss up in a brewery.

Talking of Ridsdale, I see he's washed up at Preston today. Gawd 'elp 'em

What have PNE done to deserve his reverse Midas touch?

I don't think he'll stop until he actually puts a club out of business.

I quite like Preston though -even if they do have that twat Phil Orange managing them.  So I hope it's not them.