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Re: Randy Lerner - Discuss
« Reply #105 on: December 04, 2011, 08:00:01 PM »
I see what you're saying, Brian. I came out of the ground pretty pissed off, too. Partly from how poor the first half was but also from the bloody whinging and moaning which started from about 10 seconds in. People pay their money and are entitled to express their feelings but I pay mine too.

I view myself as pragmatic rather than optimistic. The club is set up for mid table so that's what I'm expecting. It's also what makes me want to take to task the people who haven't accepted that and also those who try to paint a worse picture than it really is.

As Ads says elsewhere, there are enough real issues without having to over-hype it.

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Re: Randy Lerner - Discuss
« Reply #106 on: December 04, 2011, 08:02:06 PM »
Probably means me but funny enough I was happy when Houllier was at the club. I could see what his long term vision in regards to the modern game. We'll get none of that under AM. The performance we're seeing now is the best we'll get. It's not 'awful', it's the norm under him. And it won't work.

Here's a shocker. Supporters aren't happy with a manager who could take us down with rubbish football. Chris doesn't understand it though, sadly. I hope he will sooner or later because it's becoming ridiculous the amount of straws he is clutching now.

Don't flatter yourself, I tend to skim over your posts as no thought goes into them.

Yet why should your opinions be taken seriously when you commented on a game you haven't seen? You're a hypocrite and worse of all you insist of defending him when he has turned us into the new Blues. The facts are there, you just refuse to acknowledge it.
[/quotei agree with chris on a couple of points, firstly, if we are looking at our season from a position of a club that spends about the 8th most of money, takes about the 8th amount on revenue, has about the 8th highest attendances and about the 8th amount in salaries, plus our own contributions as fans being about the 8th highest in ticket prices, we are round and about where we need to be! i do feel however in the expectation charts we feel we should be higher but there isnt much justification for that at the moment. the football that i and my 2 sons are watching( i buy season tickets for us and go to most away games also) isnt very good! My expectations have dwindelled the past couple of years! but in agreement with chris, i have lowered my sights. The second thing i agree with is that i also skim compass's posts!

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Re: Randy Lerner - Discuss
« Reply #107 on: December 04, 2011, 08:04:48 PM »
I didn't comment on the Spurs performance though Compo, you're just making things up now.

If you offered a bit of balance I could take you seriously but you try to twist everything to be the fault of the manager, it just makes you look petty and small minded.


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Re: Randy Lerner - Discuss
« Reply #108 on: December 04, 2011, 08:23:53 PM »
I can actually see us losing at Bolton, Bolton will want this bad and will believe that this is there 3pts, on the other hand i just can't see Villa beating anybody, I can actually envisage a rough time v Bristol Rovers in the cup.

After Bolton we have Liverpool, Arsenal, Stoke away, Chelsea, there are a matter of a few points between us and all the way down to 16th Fulham who have a game in hand with 13 played, its academic, if Eck has any sense whatsoever he should look at these fixtures and realise that by the time we get to Stoke he will be facing a shit storm, and go now.

Randy Lerner should show he still as the clubs interest at heart and make his move with AM.....

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Re: Randy Lerner - Discuss
« Reply #109 on: December 04, 2011, 08:25:08 PM »
I didn't comment on the Spurs performance though Compo, you're just making things up now.

If you offered a bit of balance I could take you seriously but you try to twist everything to be the fault of the manager, it just makes you look petty and small minded.

I didn't say you commented on the Spurs performance. You did comment regarding the game though. You said you could see why AM set us up the way he did against Spurs. Well, if you had watch game you would never have said that. It was utterly wrong. The tactics didn't make any sense at all. I could understand it if we had an injury crisis like last year but we didn't. All the players were available and he set us up with 6 defenders, while his 9.5m winger was on the bench. He didn't even bother to bring him on 2-0 down when Hutton was continously being turned by Bale. There's just no defending it yet you decided to anyway without watching the match. Good one.

Anyway, I can't see it getting any better. I feel we haven't seen the bad side of AM yet. Normally in the second half of the season he's even worse in the league. I'm not looking forward to seeing where we'll end up. I want him out before it's too late.

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Re: Randy Lerner - Discuss
« Reply #110 on: December 04, 2011, 08:33:19 PM »
So, you want him out - big deal. It isn't going to happen, surely you can see test.

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Re: Randy Lerner - Discuss
« Reply #111 on: December 04, 2011, 08:34:54 PM »
Was Lerner at the game yesterday?

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Re: Randy Lerner - Discuss
« Reply #112 on: December 04, 2011, 08:36:12 PM »
I can actually see us losing at Bolton, Bolton will want this bad and will believe that this is there 3pts, on the other hand i just can't see Villa beating anybody, I can actually envisage a rough time v Bristol Rovers in the cup.

After Bolton we have Liverpool, Arsenal, Stoke away, Chelsea, there are a matter of a few points between us and all the way down to 16th Fulham who have a game in hand with 13 played, its academic, if Eck has any sense whatsoever he should look at these fixtures and realise that by the time we get to Stoke he will be facing a shit storm, and go now.

Randy Lerner should show he still as the clubs interest at heart and make his move with AM.....

This is the sort of post I just don't get. Are Bolton a better side home than Sunderland, QPR, Swansea or Everton? Places where we've already picked  points this season. There is no, logical, reason to presume that we are not capable of getting something up there.

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Re: Randy Lerner - Discuss
« Reply #113 on: December 04, 2011, 08:37:41 PM »
Was Lerner at the game yesterday?
He had a three page article in the programme.

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Re: Randy Lerner - Discuss
« Reply #114 on: December 04, 2011, 08:39:40 PM »
I can actually see us losing at Bolton, Bolton will want this bad and will believe that this is there 3pts, on the other hand i just can't see Villa beating anybody, I can actually envisage a rough time v Bristol Rovers in the cup.

After Bolton we have Liverpool, Arsenal, Stoke away, Chelsea, there are a matter of a few points between us and all the way down to 16th Fulham who have a game in hand with 13 played, its academic, if Eck has any sense whatsoever he should look at these fixtures and realise that by the time we get to Stoke he will be facing a shit storm, and go now.

Randy Lerner should show he still as the clubs interest at heart and make his move with AM.....

This is the sort of post I just don't get. Are Bolton a better side home than Sunderland, QPR, Swansea or Everton? Places where we've already picked  points this season. There is no, logical, reason to presume that we are not capable of getting something up there.

Well they have beaten us already this season and if we play like we did yesterday, we will lose.

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Re: Randy Lerner - Discuss
« Reply #115 on: December 04, 2011, 08:39:45 PM »

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Re: Randy Lerner - Discuss
« Reply #116 on: December 04, 2011, 08:43:01 PM »
Saying he's been brought in to deliver mid table football is to miss the point that until recently, we'd not played anyone really decent, and we're currently on a spell with five points from seven games (which isn't midtable form or anything like it), with a lot of tough fixtures ahead of us.



We've drawn with 6th placed Newcastle, 11th placed QPR and 8th placed Everton and beaten 10th placed Norwich. Mid table teams, mid table results.

And lost at home to 13th place West Brom, drawn with 16th and 17th placed Fulham and Sunderland, 14th placed Swansea and 15th placed Wolves.

In the process, only Blackburn and Stoke have fewer successful passes than us, only Stoke have had fewer shots than us.

Five points from the last seven games, and with a dreadful run of fixtures still to come. What's the trajectory there, do you reckon?

I think the appropriate response is 'ouch!'

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Re: Randy Lerner - Discuss
« Reply #117 on: December 04, 2011, 08:46:55 PM »

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Re: Randy Lerner - Discuss
« Reply #118 on: December 04, 2011, 08:56:12 PM »

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I didn't comment on the Spurs performance though Compo, you're just making things up now.
You did comment on, and condemn, people's reactions on the game though.

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If you offered a bit of balance I could take you seriously but you try to twist everything to be the fault of the manager, it just makes you look petty and small minded.

Why should anybody adhere to your standards? We all have individual opinions on the Villa and we express them differently, what is the problem with that?

Compass is a little blunt with his view, but he does have a strong point on McLeish. Why should his argument be presented to flatter you or me?

I want AM out for footballing reasons. But it is not because I personally hate the guy, I do not know him nor wish to. I expect Aston Villa to be the best they can be, I hope everybody shares that belief.
 


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Re: Randy Lerner - Discuss
« Reply #119 on: December 04, 2011, 08:58:19 PM »
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Where is the horse and the rider?

The horse is dead. The rider has not realised that the horse is dead. Any minute he is going to hit the ground and wake up....I hope!

 


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