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Offline PaulTheVillan

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Re: could we get relegated?
« Reply #30 on: September 26, 2011, 12:30:43 PM »
Yes we could.

We wont.

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Re: could we get relegated?
« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2011, 12:34:15 PM »
cant even talk about my club now then forget it

Calm down matey, you know how fickle Villa fans are.

In answer to your question, a reasonable one, IMO every possibility, we carry on our form as we stand, 1 win in 6 and you can bet your roof on the fact we will be fighting relegation, once you get into that kind of dog fight anything can happen.

Determine factors, how we build on the 2nd half we looked at yesterday, some might say grasping at straws but that's the reality, so how we improve and how well we beat Wigan at the weekend which is a must win because IMO Wigan will be one of the sides fighting to stay up.

Then the next obstacle is when we play teams capable of taking the chances in front of goal that we haven't yet come up against, the type of teams that will take advantage of the way we played in the first 45mins yesterday and we go in at half time heads down and 2 goals down.

So, reality is we could go down, anybody outside of the top 7 maybe 8 can, and anybody that couldn't look at the way Villa performed in the first 45mins yesterday (worst team performance of any i have seen this season) and not recognize the possibility of us getting relegated is deluded IMO.

cheers mate nice to see someone who isnt making stupid assumptions after a couple of posts!

Offline Blackcountry Villa

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Re: could we get relegated?
« Reply #32 on: September 26, 2011, 12:39:16 PM »
We won't go down because the football we play is too negative. It's easy to draw games when you defend with nine men and don't have a shot on target in open play. Plus Shay Given will save our arses.

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Re: could we get relegated?
« Reply #33 on: September 26, 2011, 12:44:03 PM »
If McLeish can sort this system out & motivate the players then we won't be relegated, but I have a niggling concern that we haven't got the ability to break teams down, our creativity is zero, we can't maintain pressure for more than a few minutes & we only ever seem to turn up for one half. This has got to change.

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Re: could we get relegated?
« Reply #34 on: September 26, 2011, 12:47:14 PM »
 a few heavy defeats to Manciteh, United, Celsea and dare I say Arsenal could see us seriously demotivated and then how will the gang of 5 respond?

Offline Villanation

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Re: could we get relegated?
« Reply #35 on: September 26, 2011, 12:49:41 PM »
cant even talk about my club now then forget it

Calm down matey, you know how fickle Villa fans are.

In answer to your question, a reasonable one, IMO every possibility, we carry on our form as we stand, 1 win in 6 and you can bet your roof on the fact we will be fighting relegation, once you get into that kind of dog fight anything can happen.

Determine factors, how we build on the 2nd half we looked at yesterday, some might say grasping at straws but that's the reality, so how we improve and how well we beat Wigan at the weekend which is a must win because IMO Wigan will be one of the sides fighting to stay up.

Then the next obstacle is when we play teams capable of taking the chances in front of goal that we haven't yet come up against, the type of teams that will take advantage of the way we played in the first 45mins yesterday and we go in at half time heads down and 2 goals down.

So, reality is we could go down, anybody outside of the top 7 maybe 8 can, and anybody that couldn't look at the way Villa performed in the first 45mins yesterday (worst team performance of any i have seen this season) and not recognize the possibility of us getting relegated is deluded IMO.

cheers mate nice to see someone who isnt making stupid assumptions after a couple of posts!

No Probs really, because the answer is we could easily get relegated and despite the bullishness that you have read, i look at it this way, would i say for absolute definite that Villa will not go down, no absolutely not and for a very good reason that I'm saying that is because we are about to play Wigan Athletic, would I say without a shadow of a doubt that we couldn't get beat by Wigan? No I wouldn't, therefore if we can lose to Wigan we can certainly get relegated, which is why its important we win.

 ;) And by the way watch how many come on here screaming relegation if we do get beat or draw on Saturday, still all good fun.... :D



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Re: could we get relegated?
« Reply #36 on: September 26, 2011, 12:52:42 PM »
cant even talk about my club now then forget it

Calm down matey, you know how fickle Villa fans are.

In answer to your question, a reasonable one, IMO every possibility, we carry on our form as we stand, 1 win in 6 and you can bet your roof on the fact we will be fighting relegation, once you get into that kind of dog fight anything can happen.

Determine factors, how we build on the 2nd half we looked at yesterday, some might say grasping at straws but that's the reality, so how we improve and how well we beat Wigan at the weekend which is a must win because IMO Wigan will be one of the sides fighting to stay up.

Then the next obstacle is when we play teams capable of taking the chances in front of goal that we haven't yet come up against, the type of teams that will take advantage of the way we played in the first 45mins yesterday and we go in at half time heads down and 2 goals down.

So, reality is we could go down, anybody outside of the top 7 maybe 8 can, and anybody that couldn't look at the way Villa performed in the first 45mins yesterday (worst team performance of any i have seen this season) and not recognize the possibility of us getting relegated is deluded IMO.

cheers mate nice to see someone who isnt making stupid assumptions after a couple of posts!

No Probs really, because the answer is we could easily get relegated and despite the bullishness that you have read, i look at it this way, would i say for absolute definite that Villa will not go down, no absolutely not and for a very good reason that I'm saying that is because we are about to play Wigan Athletic, would I say without a shadow of a doubt that we couldn't get beat by Wigan? No I wouldn't, therefore if we can lose to Wigan we can certainly get relegated, which is why its important we win.

 ;) And by the way watch how many come on here screaming relegation if we do get beat or draw on Saturday, still all good fun.... :D

exactly its a forum to talk villa! i asked a question regarding villa , if we dont do well on saturday there'll be more people coming out and posting such things will they be accused as well

Offline Villanation

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Re: could we get relegated?
« Reply #37 on: September 26, 2011, 12:55:28 PM »
If McLeish can sort this system out & motivate the players then we won't be relegated, but I have a niggling concern that we haven't got the ability to break teams down, our creativity is zero, we can't maintain pressure for more than a few minutes & we only ever seem to turn up for one half. This has got to change.

Good post......Another thing to remember is, if we get into a dog fight we don't have a manager that knows how to make the team dig in and survive, doesn't know how to gee up players that will be clearly demotivated.

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Re: could we get relegated?
« Reply #38 on: September 26, 2011, 12:57:58 PM »
Our season will not be decided by results against the top 4 so it's a bit of a red herring to talk about them. It will be how we do against the rest, so far we've played 3 teams who I reckon will be in the mid table group (Fulham, Everton and Newcastle) and have drawn them all - 2 away from home. It hasn't been pretty but we've shown enough bottle and resilience to suggest we're not going to be a soft touch.



We've also played teams like QPR and Wolves who you'd think will be scrapping it out to avoid relegation, and we've drawn with them too.  This season is going exactly as I thought it would.  Turgid, horrible football with lots of draws.  No quality whatsoever, but hard enough to beat that we probably won't be sucked into a relegation scrap.

Offline Karl Bridges

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Re: could we get relegated?
« Reply #39 on: September 26, 2011, 12:59:51 PM »
Villa only playing for 1 half is a long term thing, I often say to my Dad 'I hope this is our bad half'

Offline Villanation

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Re: could we get relegated?
« Reply #40 on: September 26, 2011, 01:00:44 PM »
cant even talk about my club now then forget it

Calm down matey, you know how fickle Villa fans are.

In answer to your question, a reasonable one, IMO every possibility, we carry on our form as we stand, 1 win in 6 and you can bet your roof on the fact we will be fighting relegation, once you get into that kind of dog fight anything can happen.

Determine factors, how we build on the 2nd half we looked at yesterday, some might say grasping at straws but that's the reality, so how we improve and how well we beat Wigan at the weekend which is a must win because IMO Wigan will be one of the sides fighting to stay up.

Then the next obstacle is when we play teams capable of taking the chances in front of goal that we haven't yet come up against, the type of teams that will take advantage of the way we played in the first 45mins yesterday and we go in at half time heads down and 2 goals down.

So, reality is we could go down, anybody outside of the top 7 maybe 8 can, and anybody that couldn't look at the way Villa performed in the first 45mins yesterday (worst team performance of any i have seen this season) and not recognize the possibility of us getting relegated is deluded IMO.

cheers mate nice to see someone who isnt making stupid assumptions after a couple of posts!

No Probs really, because the answer is we could easily get relegated and despite the bullishness that you have read, i look at it this way, would i say for absolute definite that Villa will not go down, no absolutely not and for a very good reason that I'm saying that is because we are about to play Wigan Athletic, would I say without a shadow of a doubt that we couldn't get beat by Wigan? No I wouldn't, therefore if we can lose to Wigan we can certainly get relegated, which is why its important we win.

 ;) And by the way watch how many come on here screaming relegation if we do get beat or draw on Saturday, still all good fun.... :D

exactly its a forum to talk villa! i asked a question regarding villa , if we dont do well on saturday there'll be more people coming out and posting such things will they be accused as well

Indeed it is, I can't imagine anything worse than calling a Villa fan a blue nose, I can't imagine calling someone a blue nose whether they are a Villa fan or not  8).

As you say its the footy chat that's important.


Offline Villanation

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Re: could we get relegated?
« Reply #41 on: September 26, 2011, 01:03:57 PM »
Our season will not be decided by results against the top 4 so it's a bit of a red herring to talk about them. It will be how we do against the rest, so far we've played 3 teams who I reckon will be in the mid table group (Fulham, Everton and Newcastle) and have drawn them all - 2 away from home. It hasn't been pretty but we've shown enough bottle and resilience to suggest we're not going to be a soft touch.



We've also played teams like QPR and Wolves who you'd think will be scrapping it out to avoid relegation, and we've drawn with them too.  This season is going exactly as I thought it would.  Turgid, horrible football with lots of draws.  No quality whatsoever, but hard enough to beat that we probably won't be sucked into a relegation scrap.

Good post and foresight, I thought we had a bit more TBH then to be completely transformed into a demi Birmingham City which is basically what your saying in terms of the results and type of football, perhaps I have been a tad to optimistic.
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Offline PNB Army

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Re: could we get relegated?
« Reply #42 on: September 26, 2011, 01:16:22 PM »
Our season will not be decided by results against the top 4 so it's a bit of a red herring to talk about them. It will be how we do against the rest, so far we've played 3 teams who I reckon will be in the mid table group (Fulham, Everton and Newcastle) and have drawn them all - 2 away from home. It hasn't been pretty but we've shown enough bottle and resilience to suggest we're not going to be a soft touch.



We've also played teams like QPR and Wolves who you'd think will be scrapping it out to avoid relegation, and we've drawn with them too.  This season is going exactly as I thought it would.  Turgid, horrible football with lots of draws.  No quality whatsoever, but hard enough to beat that we probably won't be sucked into a relegation scrap.

Good post and foresight, I thought we had a bit more TBH then to be completely transformed into a demi Birmingham City which is basically what your saying in terms of the results and type of football, perhaps I have been a tad to optimistic.

top bloke pal (y)i dont get to go to many games as i dont live here anymore but from what i hear from both sets of fans seems to be the same. talksport the other night there was a vila fan who said all his blues mates told him exactly what games wud be like and he was rigt

Offline deero83

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Re: could we get relegated?
« Reply #43 on: September 26, 2011, 01:28:54 PM »
Are you aware Preston is in Lancashire not Yorkshire?!
cant even talk about my club now then forget it

Offline Chris Smith

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Re: could we get relegated?
« Reply #44 on: September 26, 2011, 01:50:48 PM »
Our season will not be decided by results against the top 4 so it's a bit of a red herring to talk about them. It will be how we do against the rest, so far we've played 3 teams who I reckon will be in the mid table group (Fulham, Everton and Newcastle) and have drawn them all - 2 away from home. It hasn't been pretty but we've shown enough bottle and resilience to suggest we're not going to be a soft touch.



We've also played teams like QPR and Wolves who you'd think will be scrapping it out to avoid relegation, and we've drawn with them too.  This season is going exactly as I thought it would.  Turgid, horrible football with lots of draws.  No quality whatsoever, but hard enough to beat that we probably won't be sucked into a relegation scrap.

I think QPR will be fine, the players they've signed means they'll give most teams a game - lower mid table I reckon. It's not going to be an easy place to win.

To say "no quality whatsoever" is a gross exaggeration. We've had good periods in all of the games to varying degrees. We're just still trying to get the balance right in midfield, it's a situation that the manager has inherited but the signs were that in the second half yesterday the players are starting to get it.

 


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