Quote from: Villanation on September 08, 2011, 07:57:54 PM@TVilla. Your missing my point Toronto Villa, Just because Darren Bent as performed for other clubs and in front of other teams doesn't for one second mean he will perform that way in front of a Villa midfield, how many top players can you think of that go to other clubs with sparkling reputations, even World Class to be proved near useless, ever heard of Torres. I am saying that Darren Bent's job just got a lot harder and for all the stat heads out there, you'll be getting a completely different appraisal of the player, assuming he hasn't got p*ssed of with it and stuck himself on the transfer list, which he's well capable of doing.As for my point about Gabby, he's only ever kicked a ball for Villa and in front of a Villa team (other than U21+ a full cap) how can you compare player for player in terms of there stat's, that is of course unless you are prepared to see Darren Bent stuck out wide left for the next season and then see how his goal tally compares, yes Darren Bent is a more traditional goal poacher front man and thus a more natural goal scorer, doesn't mean for one second other teams won't adapt and deal with him, but to say one player is simply not in the other players league when it comes to goal scoring, when the one player doesn't even play there any more is a nonsense, and if that's the case then I dare say if I'm correct you be back on here at season end if Bent has only notched up 15/16 goals for the season you'll be saying he's not a good striker after all and we need to get someone better.And for the 1 or 2 paranoid posters I'm not having a pop at Darren Bent, wonderful striker, but how many times do you see deluded footy fans dream up this crazy idea's of what a player is capable of only to see it shot down in flames the next season.Was actually reading on a Chelsea thread about Torres, when they paid 50ML for him he was not only better than Messi he was world No1, now they are saying how friggin useless he is and he is a complete waste of money and should have been sold in the summerYou're opinion is irrelevant to me at this point. He scored for us at will last campaign, and was one of the sole reasons we stayed up. I understand you're not slagging him off but what evidence do you have that he's not good enough?! He's a proven striker in the prem, whether you take into account his goal tally in the past 5 years or his promising future with a club he enjoys playing at. You're speaking absolute rubbish mate.
@TVilla. Your missing my point Toronto Villa, Just because Darren Bent as performed for other clubs and in front of other teams doesn't for one second mean he will perform that way in front of a Villa midfield, how many top players can you think of that go to other clubs with sparkling reputations, even World Class to be proved near useless, ever heard of Torres. I am saying that Darren Bent's job just got a lot harder and for all the stat heads out there, you'll be getting a completely different appraisal of the player, assuming he hasn't got p*ssed of with it and stuck himself on the transfer list, which he's well capable of doing.As for my point about Gabby, he's only ever kicked a ball for Villa and in front of a Villa team (other than U21+ a full cap) how can you compare player for player in terms of there stat's, that is of course unless you are prepared to see Darren Bent stuck out wide left for the next season and then see how his goal tally compares, yes Darren Bent is a more traditional goal poacher front man and thus a more natural goal scorer, doesn't mean for one second other teams won't adapt and deal with him, but to say one player is simply not in the other players league when it comes to goal scoring, when the one player doesn't even play there any more is a nonsense, and if that's the case then I dare say if I'm correct you be back on here at season end if Bent has only notched up 15/16 goals for the season you'll be saying he's not a good striker after all and we need to get someone better.And for the 1 or 2 paranoid posters I'm not having a pop at Darren Bent, wonderful striker, but how many times do you see deluded footy fans dream up this crazy idea's of what a player is capable of only to see it shot down in flames the next season.Was actually reading on a Chelsea thread about Torres, when they paid 50ML for him he was not only better than Messi he was world No1, now they are saying how friggin useless he is and he is a complete waste of money and should have been sold in the summer
If Bent is injured and we play Gabby central, he'll give us everything Bent does in terms of general team play, and possibly even more, but he just won't be as clynical infront of goal. Like that ot not, he's still our best option is Bent is out.As to his goal tally this season and the effect our departures will have on it, only time will tell. Looking at N'Zogbia's stats he'd more a scorer than creator, so we may see a greater overall output from him than Downing, but with more goals and less assists on balance. But Ash was our main man in terms of creativity, so it's his loss we'll feel most. In order to give bent the best chance of getting to that magical 20 number we'll need one or more of Gabby, Bannan or Albrighton to really make their mark and produce.
midnite & J M'Zog.Absolutely and time will tell, but at least we got a decent full on footy debate going without any personal swipes which lets face it, its what a Forum like this is all about surely, more importantly we are singing from the same hymn sheet for tomorrows game. Lets hope its a cracker.