Shay Given

[PeterWithesShin]

According to Ask:

Your million pounds will earn you: 1 day: £110, 1 month: £3,333, 1 year: £40,742, 5 years: £220,997, 10 years: £490,833, 20 years: £1,222,582, 30 years: £2,313,498. A small difference in the interest rate makes a big difference and Compound interest can grow your money by a huge amount over time.

Massive sums to most of us, but as Dave says, not so much if your lifestyle is based on earning sheds loads more than that.

[silhillvilla]

A few years back I spoke with an accountant who did the books of a fair few PL players. He said it was amazing how many had real money issues. Largely because they lose all commercial nous and get fleeced by hangers on, bad investments, WAG's with plastic who have no problems shopping , also footballers only get very short term mortgages so it all adds up. Then the inevitable divorce for many breaks them.

[eamonn]

Why can't these fuckers re-train after retiring and become something useful like architects and accountants?
30 odd years off pensionable age, do any of them avoid the pundit/coach/property cliché?

[ozzjim]

If I was Given, and at 37 offered a loan deal to go and sit on another bench at half the wages I would not go. If I was offered it to play though, knowing I still had 2 years beyond that still on 60k at Villa I would go as it would be better to play than not. If I were Hutton, I would cling to the 40k as long as possible, in full knowledge that no other mug will ever pay that again so I need to trouser it for as long as I can.

[Duncan Shaw]

If I was Given, and at 37 offered a loan deal to go and sit on another bench at half the wages I would not go. If I was offered it to play though, knowing I still had 2 years beyond that still on 60k at Villa I would go as it would be better to play than not. If I were Hutton, I would cling to the 40k as long as possible, in full knowledge that no other mug will ever pay that again so I need to trouser it for as long as I can.

Nail on head!

[Percy McCarthy]

If I was Given, and at 37 offered a loan deal to go and sit on another bench at half the wages I would not go. If I was offered it to play though, knowing I still had 2 years beyond that still on 60k at Villa I would go as it would be better to play than not. If I were Hutton, I would cling to the 40k as long as possible, in full knowledge that no other mug will ever pay that again so I need to trouser it for as long as I can.

Even if Guven were to go on loan to Chelmsley Town he'd be paid his full whack. The only question would be who would pay it, and what proportion etc. Agree with the rest of your post Ozz.

[sirlordbaltimore]

I can't believe anyone at Villa would seriously want Steer to replace Guzan in the first team if something happened to him. The lads not even played a handful of top flight games in his career and to throw him in as #1 could be a potential disaster for us and him

I'd much rather Shay was given (no pun intended) the back up jersey and Steer got some experience on loan or something

[LeeB]

I can't believe anyone at Villa would seriously want Steer to replace Guzan in the first team if something happened to him. The lads not even played a handful of top flight games in his career and to throw him in as #1 could be a potential disaster for us and him

I'd much rather Shay was given (no pun intended) the back up jersey and Steer got some experience on loan or something

I don't know if Steer's good enough, but I know Shay isn't.

So how will we ever know if he's good enough if he never gets to play? Anyway, thankfully the over-cautious approach to giving youngsters a chance fucked off out the door with McLeish, so we don't have to worry about that kind of backwards thinking anymore.

[Malandro]

I'd like rid but I'd trust Given as back up. Although I'd also expect a fair few blunders.

[LeeB]

I'd like rid but I'd trust Given as back up. Although I'd also expect a fair few blunders.

I saw him twice last season.

Against Everton at home, when he chucked one in, and against Norwich away in the cup, where I spent the whole game bar the last couple of minutes convinced he was going to cost us the tie.

I'd rather see this highly rated youngster given a chance.

[eamonn]

He was pretty poor at Millwall too. Copped a fair bit of stick from the Villa fans. Mind you, you couldn't blame us for being pissed off and angry that night.

[Dave]

I'd like rid but I'd trust Given as back up. Although I'd also expect a fair few blunders.

I saw him twice last season.

Against Everton at home, when he chucked one in, and against Norwich away in the cup, where I spent the whole game bar the last couple of minutes convinced he was going to cost us the tie.

Plus spending 180 minutes against Bradford rooted to his line so that all they had to do was launch cross after cross into the box, knowing that there was no chance of him catching any of them.

[ozzjim]

I'd like rid but I'd trust Given as back up. Although I'd also expect a fair few blunders.

I saw him twice last season.

Against Everton at home, when he chucked one in, and against Norwich away in the cup, where I spent the whole game bar the last couple of minutes convinced he was going to cost us the tie.

I'd rather see this highly rated youngster given a chance.

I still think Guzan starts the Bradford games we are in the final.

[Mister E]

...  So how will we ever know if he's good enough if he never gets to play? Anyway, thankfully the over-cautious approach to giving youngsters a chance fucked off out the door with McLeish, so we don't have to worry about that kind of backwards thinking anymore.

Yep, look to the future.

I'm amazed that we have not been able to find a loan for him somewhere; and Hutton.
They would both be valuable in the C'ship and it would be better for all parties if they were elsewhere; even if we were still paying 90% of the wages.

[lovejoy]

This idea that footballers should expect to be paid massive wages once they retire is nonsense. Premier league players will earn plenty in 10 years to keep them and their families comfortable for life. if they are too stupid to properly plan for life after football by wasting the money on garage full of fast cars, and expensive divorce settlements because they are shagging around, then tough shit.
The sense of entitlement is astounding.