Aston Villa sign Charles N'Zogbia (Reply#1151)

[john2710]

According to Whelan there are other bidders, but unlike the Villa he doesn't go on to name them. Probably because they don't exist. Whelan put one over us on Martinez, I can't see RL letting him do it again. There will, eventually, be a compromise. I hope!!

Please tell me how this happened because as far as I know Martinez never had an interview. 

Now, if you mean 'put one over us' in the sense that he backed Martinez into a corner then you might have just the slightest flicker of a point. 

I think it's generally accepted that Whelan announced to the press a written request from us to speak to Martinez safe in the knowledge that Martinez was going to sign a new contract to stay. He used the situation to make us look like mugs or naive in the eyes of the press & the general public. To me that's what I'd call putting 'one over us', infact I don't know what else you'd call it?

How is breaking a confidence "putting one over us"?

To announce to the world he'd given us permission to speak his manager, safe in the knowledge that he'd agreed to stay. For me that's deceit and makes Villa look like fools.  If you don't agree with my view of it so what?

According to Whelan there are other bidders, but unlike the Villa he doesn't go on to name them. Probably because they don't exist. Whelan put one over us on Martinez, I can't see RL letting him do it again. There will, eventually, be a compromise. I hope!!

Please tell me how this happened because as far as I know Martinez never had an interview. 

Now, if you mean 'put one over us' in the sense that he backed Martinez into a corner then you might have just the slightest flicker of a point. 

I think it's generally accepted that Whelan announced to the press a written request from us to speak to Martinez safe in the knowledge that Martinez was going to sign a new contract to stay. He used the situation to make us look like mugs or naive in the eyes of the press & the general public. To me that's what I'd call putting 'one over us', infact I don't know what else you'd call it?

How is breaking a confidence "putting one over us"?

How is being deceitful & making Villa look like fools not?

[dave.woodhall]

How is breaking a confidence "putting one over us"?

How is being deceitful & making Villa look like fools not?

In that case the News of the World put one over Millie Dowler's family.

[Toronto Villa]

I don't get all this "we got made to look like fools" bollocks. I'm guessing the Roberto Martinez episode didn't register a ripple in the football world. It was a 2 day story at a time when next to nothing else was going on. Does anyone really believe outside of some sensitive souls amongst our lot anyone really gave a damn amongst all the other fans? We were refused an interview. Big fucking deal.

[Villafirst]

Guys - back to the main thread!....N'Zogbia agreed fee will be announced tomorrow - John Richardson of the Express is usually fairly accurate - he's a senior journo for the Express. I'll probably get blasted for this, but (I'm usually ultra pessimistic!) I believe it'll all unfold on Monday!

[Lambert and Payne]

Guys - back to the main thread!....N'Zogbia agreed fee will be announced tomorrow - John Richardson of the Express is usually fairly accurate - he's a senior journo for the Express. I'll probably get blasted for this, but (I'm usually ultra pessimistic!) I believe it'll all unfold on Monday!

Hope this is true, but Eck said he wanted to get it done before hong kong? How's he going to discuss things over with McLeish?

[Toronto Villa]

Guys - back to the main thread!....N'Zogbia agreed fee will be announced tomorrow - John Richardson of the Express is usually fairly accurate - he's a senior journo for the Express. I'll probably get blasted for this, but (I'm usually ultra pessimistic!) I believe it'll all unfold on Monday!

I think you might be correct. There seems to be a couple of press reports suggesting that there was a break in the impasse and the deal is moving along again. If it gets done tomorrow then maybe he flies out with AM to HK to join up with the rest of the squad.

[Toronto Villa]

Guys - back to the main thread!....N'Zogbia agreed fee will be announced tomorrow - John Richardson of the Express is usually fairly accurate - he's a senior journo for the Express. I'll probably get blasted for this, but (I'm usually ultra pessimistic!) I believe it'll all unfold on Monday!

Hope this is true, but Eck said he wanted to get it done before hong kong? How's he going to discuss things over with McLeish?

AM isn't with the squad yet, so it's feasible that they'll do the deal and fly out together.

[Villafirst]

Guys - back to the main thread!....N'Zogbia agreed fee will be announced tomorrow - John Richardson of the Express is usually fairly accurate - he's a senior journo for the Express. I'll probably get blasted for this, but (I'm usually ultra pessimistic!) I believe it'll all unfold on Monday!

I think you might be correct. There seems to be a couple of press reports suggesting that there was a break in the impasse and the deal is moving along again. If it gets done tomorrow then maybe he flies out with AM to HK to join up with the rest of the squad.

No, CNZ is in Dubai - I just think that the fee will be agreed (It's probably already agreed) on Monday with a medical and terms sorted by Wednesday or Thursday. AM doesn't have to be there.

[john2710]

How is breaking a confidence "putting one over us"?

How is being deceitful & making Villa look like fools not?

In that case the News of the World put one over Millie Dowler's family.

WTF, how is that of any relevance?
Did Whelan put one over on us? In my opinion,Yes.
In yours No.
I'm not always right, but then again neither are you? 

[dave.woodhall]

How is breaking a confidence "putting one over us"?

How is being deceitful & making Villa look like fools not?

In that case the News of the World put one over Millie Dowler's family.

WTF, how is that of any relevance?
Did Whelan put one over on us? In my opinion,Yes.
In yours No.
I'm not always right, but then again neither are you? 

Yes I am.

[pauliewalnuts]

Whelan used the refusal by Martinez to speak to us to make himself look like Charlie Big Bollocks and us a bit half arsed.

I dont really care about the fact it lasted for two days, and I don't really care about it at all now, but we looked a bit amateurish at the time, and looked even more so the day after when we issued that slightly pathetic statement about Martinez.

[TimTheVillain]

Guys - back to the main thread!....N'Zogbia agreed fee will be announced tomorrow - John Richardson of the Express is usually fairly accurate - he's a senior journo for the Express. I'll probably get blasted for this, but (I'm usually ultra pessimistic!) I believe it'll all unfold on Monday!

Hope this is true, but Eck said he wanted to get it done before hong kong? How's he going to discuss things over with McLeish?

AM isn't with the squad yet, so it's feasible that they'll do the deal and fly out together.

.................hand in hand

[VillaAlways]

Guys - back to the main thread!....N'Zogbia agreed fee will be announced tomorrow - John Richardson of the Express is usually fairly accurate - he's a senior journo for the Express. I'll probably get blasted for this, but (I'm usually ultra pessimistic!) I believe it'll all unfold on Monday!

Hope this is true, but Eck said he wanted to get it done before hong kong? How's he going to discuss things over with McLeish?

AM isn't with the squad yet, so it's feasible that they'll do the deal and fly out together.

.................hand in hand

Isn't CNZ in Dubai ?

[Toronto Villa]

Guys - back to the main thread!....N'Zogbia agreed fee will be announced tomorrow - John Richardson of the Express is usually fairly accurate - he's a senior journo for the Express. I'll probably get blasted for this, but (I'm usually ultra pessimistic!) I believe it'll all unfold on Monday!

I think you might be correct. There seems to be a couple of press reports suggesting that there was a break in the impasse and the deal is moving along again. If it gets done tomorrow then maybe he flies out with AM to HK to join up with the rest of the squad.

No, CNZ is in Dubai - I just think that the fee will be agreed (It's probably already agreed) on Monday with a medical and terms sorted by Wednesday or Thursday. AM doesn't have to be there.

yeh, forgot that. Off course if the deal is agreed he could be flying back today. In any case, I think this will be done this week. The final of the Asia Cup isn't until next weekend if they do want him out there, though they could just wait I suppose instead of flying him all the way out there just for one game.

[Compass]

Is it possible we can get this player while the manager and team are in Hong Kong?