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Author Topic: Aston Villa sign Charles N'Zogbia (Reply#1151)  (Read 333698 times)

Offline VillaAlways

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Re: Aston Villa make bid for Charles N'Zogbia
« Reply #405 on: July 22, 2011, 11:15:39 AM »
But will the player accept the transfer knowing he could come here and get paid more?
I've no idea of Evertons wage structure tbh.Is it similar to that of Sunderland.What are the likes of Cahill etc on

It's all paper rumour etc., but if you believe if we're offering £60k a week and Sunderland/Everton can't or won't match that.  Given what happened at the Sty last year, I can't see him signing for anything less once he knows what's on offer!
I guess if that's the case and Wigan won't budge.It would be in his favour to stay at Wigan and go for a free next season and DW gets nothing.Unless Sunderland/Everton break their wage structure or  Spurs come in for him DW's screwed.You can see why were reluctant to upthe bid.That million is a over a years salary for N'Zog

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Re: Aston Villa make bid for Charles N'Zogbia
« Reply #406 on: July 22, 2011, 11:17:24 AM »
But will the player accept the transfer knowing he could come here and get paid more?
I've no idea of Evertons wage structure tbh.Is it similar to that of Sunderland.What are the likes of Cahill etc on

It's all paper rumour etc., but if you believe if we're offering £60k a week and Sunderland/Everton can't or won't match that.  Given what happened at the Sty last year, I can't see him signing for anything less once he knows what's on offer!
I guess if that's the case and Wigan won't budge.It would be in his favour to stay at Wigan and go for a free next season and DW gets nothing.Unless Sunderland/Everton break their wage structure or  Spurs come in for him DW's screwed.You can see why were reluctant to upthe bid.That million goes towards the salary for N'Zog

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Re: Aston Villa make bid for Charles N'Zogbia
« Reply #407 on: July 22, 2011, 11:24:31 AM »
I remember when they used to give you 3d to eat a Mars bar.

Times have changed alrighty. Nowadays they call it grooming.

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Re: Aston Villa make bid for Charles N'Zogbia
« Reply #408 on: July 22, 2011, 11:26:21 AM »
I don't think it is the issue of £9m to £10m as I'm sure Villa would just pay the extra £1m. I think it will be more to do with possible millions in add ons.

Darren Bent cost us £18m rising to £24 with add ons, who's to say Whelan hasn't said £10m rising to say£14m, we just don't know.

Leave to the people that do know the whole story and just hope they know their job better than we do. 

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Re: Aston Villa make bid for Charles N'Zogbia
« Reply #409 on: July 22, 2011, 11:28:17 AM »
Alright so Wigan said 9 and now they want 10 mill.

C'mon Villa just pay it and stop acting so small time. It's embarrassing, considering we've just pocketed the best part of 36 mill. Making a stance is one thing, missing out on players we need is fucking frustrating. 

The most frustrating thing is that at no point did Wigan quote us 9 million.

When Blues can him for him a deal was agreed for 9 million so N'Zog and his agent ASSUMED if a further bid came in for 9 million he could go.

Whelan comes out and says 10 million and he walks.

Nothing underhand whatsover just Nzogbia and his agents being fuckwits


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Re: Aston Villa make bid for Charles N'Zogbia
« Reply #410 on: July 22, 2011, 11:35:54 AM »
Whelan had an offer in the lsat hour of the winter transfer window from Newcastle, it was £12 mill according to Whelan.

Everton are going to be our rivals here - if he goes to them, the'll have a far better team than us, worryingly.

Villa - ffs, get it done !

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Re: Aston Villa make bid for Charles N'Zogbia
« Reply #411 on: July 22, 2011, 11:38:07 AM »
Alright so Wigan said 9 and now they want 10 mill.

C'mon Villa just pay it and stop acting so small time. It's embarrassing, considering we've just pocketed the best part of 36 mill. Making a stance is one thing, missing out on players we need is fucking frustrating. 

The most frustrating thing is that at no point did Wigan quote us 9 million.





How do you know ? Maybe they did which would explain why we are so adamant not to up the bid

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Re: Aston Villa make bid for Charles N'Zogbia
« Reply #412 on: July 22, 2011, 11:42:21 AM »
I have mixed feelings on this.

N'Zogbia is a good player who would be an aset to our team.

He is also just a mercenary, a hired hand. When we signed  Milner, Young, Downing we were offering them a step up, a dream. yes we are bigger than Wigan, but stand as little chance of winning anything.

Desire is so important to a players success

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Re: Aston Villa make bid for Charles N'Zogbia
« Reply #413 on: July 22, 2011, 11:49:43 AM »
Everton would be ideal for him to stop in the North West

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Re: Aston Villa make bid for Charles N'Zogbia
« Reply #414 on: July 22, 2011, 11:51:13 AM »
Alright so Wigan said 9 and now they want 10 mill.

C'mon Villa just pay it and stop acting so small time. It's embarrassing, considering we've just pocketed the best part of 36 mill. Making a stance is one thing, missing out on players we need is fucking frustrating. 

The most frustrating thing is that at no point did Wigan quote us 9 million.





How do you know ? Maybe they did which would explain why we are so adamant not to up the bid

It has been quoted that Nzogbia and his agent thought they had an agreement that if a bid came in for 9 million he could leave.

They didn't have that agreement.

Just because 9 million was accepted previously doesn't mean it has to be accepted again

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Re: Aston Villa make bid for Charles N'Zogbia
« Reply #415 on: July 22, 2011, 11:51:39 AM »
I have mixed feelings on this.

N'Zogbia is a good player who would be an aset to our team.

He is also just a mercenary, a hired hand. When we signed  Milner, Young, Downing we were offering them a step up, a dream. yes we are bigger than Wigan, but stand as little chance of winning anything.

Desire is so important to a players success

Thats my worry as well. I don't expect us to be able to bring in a load of loyal players who will refuse the advances of the big teams once they've been half good for a season, but N'zogbia seems a bit iffy to me character wise. I'm just tired of us signing idiots.

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Re: Aston Villa make bid for Charles N'Zogbia
« Reply #416 on: July 22, 2011, 11:54:04 AM »
Everton would be ideal for him to stop in the North West
It's whether they would break their wage structure and pay him £60,000 a week.We already have players earning that. Can't imagine Cahill et al being very happy if they do
« Last Edit: July 22, 2011, 11:56:36 AM by VILLALWAYS »

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Re: Aston Villa make bid for Charles N'Zogbia
« Reply #417 on: July 22, 2011, 12:19:35 PM »
I am sure there is more to the deal than anyone knows the contributing factors are probably:

We have a clear figure what we (manager / Club) feel he is worth
Whelan is a media whore - but very sharp business man
NZog is probably a mercenary greedy footballer
His agent is probably even more greedy and mercenary
Both parties know that there is no other deal to be done with other clubs so its a mexican stand off for each to get the best deal

Pointless us all getting wet knickers over it as we have no input whatsoever - what will be will be

What i do fear is that if it does not come off (and i am sure that there are loads of football deals that stumble at the final hurdle) that we have a back up plan and the next option is available and ready

I would be really pissed off if we put all our hopes in one deal

Offline Villa'Zawg

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Re: Aston Villa make bid for Charles N'Zogbia
« Reply #418 on: July 22, 2011, 12:23:48 PM »
I have mixed feelings on this.

N'Zogbia is a good player who would be an aset to our team.

He is also just a mercenary, a hired hand. When we signed  Milner, Young, Downing we were offering them a step up, a dream. yes we are bigger than Wigan, but stand as little chance of winning anything.

Desire is so important to a players success

I thought we had signed Milner, Young and Downing to give the Villa a chance to step up.

Offline UsualSuspect

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Re: Aston Villa make bid for Charles N'Zogbia
« Reply #419 on: July 22, 2011, 12:24:39 PM »
I have mixed feelings on this.

N'Zogbia is a good player who would be an aset to our team.

He is also just a mercenary, a hired hand. When we signed  Milner, Young, Downing we were offering them a step up, a dream. yes we are bigger than Wigan, but stand as little chance of winning anything.

Desire is so important to a players success

Thats my worry as well. I don't expect us to be able to bring in a load of loyal players who will refuse the advances of the big teams once they've been half good for a season, but N'zogbia seems a bit iffy to me character wise. I'm just tired of us signing idiots.

I must admit when you consider him and his wages demands at Blues and is it 3 strike threats?

A bit like signing Ireland and then been surprised when he turns out to be a mentalist

 


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