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Offline eamonn

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Re: Rangers Cuellar bid accepted
« Reply #120 on: July 16, 2011, 11:18:57 PM »
All through last season when he wasn't getting a game he didn't seem too upset or want a move to carry on playing. Either that was loyalty above & beyond, or he was content to pick up his wages for minimum effort. 


not sure what you mean there. would you have rather he'd thrown his toys out the pram like Ireland? Bottom line is he played pretty well and never complained about being dropped or played out of position. After the amount of whiners last season that should be a positive i reckon.

He's never seemed too bothered about not playing.

Could just be a good professional who was biding his time to be selected again, not the upset the applecart type. Apparently there are some still out there.

Offline hawkeye

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Re: Rangers Cuellar bid accepted
« Reply #121 on: July 16, 2011, 11:26:28 PM »
He played well against Wolves away, we won, he got dropped. If Collins and Dunne were fit he didnt play despite the fact that thier form was patchy and that is being kind. I liked Cuellar, when played at CB, he did a decent job there. There is a thin line between acting like a twat and demanding to play.

Offline TheSandman

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Re: Rangers Cuellar bid accepted
« Reply #122 on: July 16, 2011, 11:26:49 PM »
Far from being content to pick up his wages I was told some time ago that he was dead set on leaving after last season.

That's probably one of the reasons we have accepted such a derisory offer and will be further underlined when he happily signs for Rangers on something like £15-20K a week.

Offline KRS

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Re: Rangers Cuellar bid accepted
« Reply #123 on: July 16, 2011, 11:40:36 PM »
Ridiculed and criticised when forced to play at RB; lacking confidence and trying too hard to impress when he did get the chance to play at CB. He was immense in that Wolves games but never filled me with confidence when he was lunging in at players in and around our box in the few times he got an opportunity to play last season. May be Dunne/Collins felt similar when asked to partner him.

Offline CBAV06

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Re: Rangers Cuellar bid accepted
« Reply #124 on: July 16, 2011, 11:46:46 PM »

Lerner better have five or six players lined up or he will face a bit of a fan's reaction I think.

I'd think he'd be pretty used to the fans (over)reactions by now.

Offline hawkeye

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Re: Rangers Cuellar bid accepted
« Reply #125 on: July 16, 2011, 11:47:21 PM »
Ridiculed and criticised when forced to play at RB; lacking confidence and trying too hard to impress when he did get the chance to play at CB. He was immense in that Wolves games but never filled me with confidence when he was lunging in at players in and around our box in the few times he got an opportunity to play last season. May be Dunne/Collins felt similar when asked to partner him.
I think that people criticised the decision to play him at RB, not the player. Talk about lunging, Collins and Dunne did that all last season, how many times did they give stupid free kicks away around the penalty area? He was no worse than those 2 when he played. My worry is that it will be more of the same next season.

Offline Nirog72

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Re: Rangers Cuellar bid accepted
« Reply #126 on: July 16, 2011, 11:50:14 PM »
If this is true it isn't a good idea.

Offline KRS

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Re: Rangers Cuellar bid accepted
« Reply #127 on: July 16, 2011, 11:56:23 PM »
I would say he was criticised for his (lack of) ability at RB, but you're right that MON was to blame and rightly cristicised for playing him there in the first place. His passing ability at times was bordering on pathetic for a professional footballer, not to mention how many times he would put the ball out of play and put pressure back on the defence when playing a relatively simple ball down the line.

You're also right about the other 2 diving in, giving away needless freekicks/penalties, but on the other hand they also made countless goal saving blocks and clearances. How the same players went from being one of the most solid defensive units in the league to verging on being incompetent in less than 12 months is something that still puzzles me.

Offline hawkeye

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Re: Rangers Cuellar bid accepted
« Reply #128 on: July 17, 2011, 12:19:45 AM »
I would say he was criticised for his (lack of) ability at RB, but you're right that MON was to blame and rightly cristicised for playing him there in the first place. His passing ability at times was bordering on pathetic for a professional footballer, not to mention how many times he would put the ball out of play and put pressure back on the defence when playing a relatively simple ball down the line.

You're also right about the other 2 diving in, giving away needless freekicks/penalties, but on the other hand they also made countless goal saving blocks and clearances. How the same players went from being one of the most solid defensive units in the league to verging on being incompetent in less than 12 months is something that still puzzles me.Yep agree. For me the last ditch tackle is something that a defender should have in the toolbox but not need to use it too often because of thier ability, balance and positioning. Collins and Dunne are well past thier peak and are too similar. The perfect CB combination is a Ball winner and a reader. Our defensive problems last year was a combination of a lack of discipline, structure, comitment, consitancy, positioning and tactics. Not just a back 5 problem but a structural problem.


Offline KevinGage

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Re: Rangers Cuellar bid accepted
« Reply #129 on: July 17, 2011, 12:27:49 AM »
He was criticised, but still popular. So it didn't have a lasting impact regarding his appreciation from most fans.

I was one of many who were baffled my MON's continued reluctance to play a decent RB at RB (we went through a whole season with Mellberg out there too remember).  But the trade off for their lack of composure in possession and ability to get forward was that we defended set pieces better with three big lumps at the back (+ Carew/Ivanhoe, Barry and whoever) and rarely had a left winger turn them inside out -or exploiting gaps from charges up field that rarely came.

A 6ft+ big bastard of a right back who had a degree of composure on the ball could have solved a lot of MON's ills in that regard. But unfortunately -in the narrow market he operated in-  none were available.  And he didn't have the inclination or awareness to import them from outside of England or Scotland.

Offline hawkeye

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Re: Rangers Cuellar bid accepted
« Reply #130 on: July 17, 2011, 01:19:43 AM »
We played Cuellar ahead of Young, we played Sidwell ahead of NRC and you wonder why it unravelled.

Offline BILL DE VALL

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Re: Rangers Cuellar bid accepted
« Reply #131 on: July 17, 2011, 01:52:42 AM »
for a Spaniard-his passing was poor-it's why he never had a sniff of international football
Decent CB and apparantly a v good bloke-so good luck to him in the SPL

Offline dl9

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Re: Rangers Cuellar bid accepted
« Reply #132 on: July 17, 2011, 07:15:04 AM »
Are we going to have an 11 to start at Fulham on 13th?

Offline Phil from the upper holte

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Re: Rangers Cuellar bid accepted
« Reply #133 on: July 17, 2011, 08:58:40 AM »
Just read he's gonna snub rangers and join espanyol

Offline Matt Collins

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Re: Rangers Cuellar bid accepted
« Reply #134 on: July 17, 2011, 09:04:05 AM »
Hmm, Glasgow or Barcelona? I know where I'd rather live

 


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