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Offline Chris Smith

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Re: We're a selling club
« Reply #210 on: July 16, 2011, 12:37:33 PM »
We're competing with Spurs and Chelsea for Parker who has recently established himself in the England setup so you're very much underestimating his standing.

N'Zogbia is a player with a bit to prove I think but has the potential to be very good.

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Re: We're a selling club
« Reply #211 on: July 16, 2011, 12:58:58 PM »
In the time I've been following Villa we have generally strengthened the team by signing the stars of relegated and almost-relegated teams. Roughly speaking, these signings have improved the team more often than not.

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Re: We're a selling club
« Reply #212 on: July 16, 2011, 01:14:19 PM »
I get involved in more than enough daft arguments on here. I'm not going to get involved in an argument about whether Parker and N'Zogbia are  an improvement on Milner, Young and Downing.

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Re: We're a selling club
« Reply #213 on: July 16, 2011, 01:25:24 PM »
I get involved in more than enough daft arguments on here. I'm not going to get involved in an argument about whether Parker and N'Zogbia are  an improvement on Milner, Young and Downing.

Maybe they aren't, but they're an improvement on what we've currently got.

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Re: We're a selling club
« Reply #214 on: July 16, 2011, 01:38:07 PM »
I get involved in more than enough daft arguments on here. I'm not going to get involved in an argument about whether Parker and N'Zogbia are  an improvement on Milner, Young and Downing.

That's a different point to the one you made earlier, though, which was about the level of teams that would be interested in them.

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Re: We're a selling club
« Reply #215 on: July 16, 2011, 01:54:12 PM »
Yes, we are a selling club, like Manchester United were a couple of seasons ago when they had to release Ronaldo and Tevez against their will. Arsenal and Spurs will also be selling clubs very shortly when Nasri, Fabregas and Modric get their way. Even Manchester City can't hold onto Tevez.
The big players are in charge and do what they want to do, contract or no contract.

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Re: We're a selling club
« Reply #216 on: July 16, 2011, 02:07:06 PM »
Yes, we are a selling club, like Manchester United were a couple of seasons ago when they had to release Ronaldo and Tevez against their will. Arsenal and Spurs will also be selling clubs very shortly when Nasri, Fabregas and Modric get their way. Even Manchester City can't hold onto Tevez.
The big players are in charge and do what they want to do, contract or no contract.

I've read numerous comments like these lately, and they conveniently ignore that Arsenal have kept Fabregas for two season despite him wanting out; that Man Utd managed to keep Vidic and Rooney despite them looking for moves at a point in time; that Modric's contract runs out in 2016 and Spurs have rejected his transfer request. Yes, these clubs have sold and may have to sell players they would have liked to keep, but they're a long way from emulating Villa.

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Re: We're a selling club
« Reply #217 on: July 16, 2011, 02:39:55 PM »
Yes, we are a selling club, like Manchester United were a couple of seasons ago when they had to release Ronaldo and Tevez against their will. Arsenal and Spurs will also be selling clubs very shortly when Nasri, Fabregas and Modric get their way. Even Manchester City can't hold onto Tevez.
The big players are in charge and do what they want to do, contract or no contract.

I've read numerous comments like these lately, and they conveniently ignore that Arsenal have kept Fabregas for two season despite him wanting out; that Man Utd managed to keep Vidic and Rooney despite them looking for moves at a point in time; that Modric's contract runs out in 2016 and Spurs have rejected his transfer request. Yes, these clubs have sold and may have to sell players they would have liked to keep, but they're a long way from emulating Villa.

Nor have those clubs sold four of their best players in two years.  As they've all played Champions League football as well, it doesn't seem to have hurt them too much. 

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Re: We're a selling club
« Reply #218 on: July 16, 2011, 02:45:55 PM »
I get involved in more than enough daft arguments on here. I'm not going to get involved in an argument about whether Parker and N'Zogbia are  an improvement on Milner, Young and Downing.

That's a different point to the one you made earlier, though, which was about the level of teams that would be interested in them.

I'm willing to bet that neither Spurs or Chelsea will buy Parker. I can just about see the possibility that one of them would take him on loan to cover a temporary gap in their squad.

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Re: We're a selling club
« Reply #219 on: July 16, 2011, 03:02:04 PM »
Yes, we are a selling club, like Manchester United were a couple of seasons ago when they had to release Ronaldo and Tevez against their will. Arsenal and Spurs will also be selling clubs very shortly when Nasri, Fabregas and Modric get their way. Even Manchester City can't hold onto Tevez.
The big players are in charge and do what they want to do, contract or no contract.



I've read numerous comments like these lately, and they conveniently ignore that Arsenal have kept Fabregas for two season despite him wanting out; that Man Utd managed to keep Vidic and Rooney despite them looking for moves at a point in time; that Modric's contract runs out in 2016 and Spurs have rejected his transfer request. Yes, these clubs have sold and may have to sell players they would have liked to keep, but they're a long way from emulating Villa.

They're clubs higher up the food chain than us so there are fewer predators but in the end players and the richer teams teams almost always get their way. Spurs might hold onto Modric this year but unless they challenge for the title he'll be off next year as, in all probability, will Bale.

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Re: We're a selling club
« Reply #220 on: July 16, 2011, 03:02:58 PM »
I get involved in more than enough daft arguments on here. I'm not going to get involved in an argument about whether Parker and N'Zogbia are  an improvement on Milner, Young and Downing.

That's a different point to the one you made earlier, though, which was about the level of teams that would be interested in them.

I'm willing to bet that neither Spurs or Chelsea will buy Parker. I can just about see the possibility that one of them would take him on loan to cover a temporary gap in their squad.


Redknapp has already tried to buy him once.

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Re: We're a selling club
« Reply #221 on: July 16, 2011, 03:13:24 PM »
I get involved in more than enough daft arguments on here. I'm not going to get involved in an argument about whether Parker and N'Zogbia are  an improvement on Milner, Young and Downing.

That's a different point to the one you made earlier, though, which was about the level of teams that would be interested in them.

I'm willing to bet that neither Spurs or Chelsea will buy Parker. I can just about see the possibility that one of them would take him on loan to cover a temporary gap in their squad.


Redknapp has already tried to buy him once.

Redknapp has reportedly tried to buy every player that has ever set foot in the centre-circle. With the amount he has spent on midfielders it is hard to imagine that he couldn't have bought him before now if he had really wanted to.

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Re: We're a selling club
« Reply #222 on: July 16, 2011, 03:16:10 PM »
I get involved in more than enough daft arguments on here. I'm not going to get involved in an argument about whether Parker and N'Zogbia are  an improvement on Milner, Young and Downing.

Just as well, as nobody said they were.

Offline Eigentor

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Re: We're a selling club
« Reply #223 on: July 16, 2011, 03:16:39 PM »
Yes, we are a selling club, like Manchester United were a couple of seasons ago when they had to release Ronaldo and Tevez against their will. Arsenal and Spurs will also be selling clubs very shortly when Nasri, Fabregas and Modric get their way. Even Manchester City can't hold onto Tevez.
The big players are in charge and do what they want to do, contract or no contract.



I've read numerous comments like these lately, and they conveniently ignore that Arsenal have kept Fabregas for two season despite him wanting out; that Man Utd managed to keep Vidic and Rooney despite them looking for moves at a point in time; that Modric's contract runs out in 2016 and Spurs have rejected his transfer request. Yes, these clubs have sold and may have to sell players they would have liked to keep, but they're a long way from emulating Villa.

They're clubs higher up the food chain than us so there are fewer predators but in the end players and the richer teams teams almost always get their way. Spurs might hold onto Modric this year but unless they challenge for the title he'll be off next year as, in all probability, will Bale.


They're higher up in the food chain, but they also have more players that the richer teams may be interested in. I'm not claiming that Arsenal and Spurs will manage to keep their stars, but I've certainly got the impression that they're fighting harder to keep their top players than we do.

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Re: We're a selling club
« Reply #224 on: July 16, 2011, 03:42:05 PM »
I get involved in more than enough daft arguments on here. I'm not going to get involved in an argument about whether Parker and N'Zogbia are  an improvement on Milner, Young and Downing.

That's a different point to the one you made earlier, though, which was about the level of teams that would be interested in them.

I'm willing to bet that neither Spurs or Chelsea will buy Parker. I can just about see the possibility that one of them would take him on loan to cover a temporary gap in their squad.


Redknapp has already tried to buy him once.

Redknapp has reportedly tried to buy every player that has ever set foot in the centre-circle. With the amount he has spent on midfielders it is hard to imagine that he couldn't have bought him before now if he had really wanted to.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/west-ham/8287430/Tottenham-offer-West-Ham-Robbie-Keane-and-2-million-for-Scott-Parker.html

 


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