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Offline Chris Jameson

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Re: Young set for Man Utd
« Reply #75 on: June 08, 2011, 06:24:30 PM »
Andy Carroll cost £35m and earns £85,000 a week I think. I doubt he'll ever be as prolific as Bent but he is more well-rounded and will earn his salary every week with his hold-up play, lay-offs and knock-downs.



More well-rounded? In what respect? He looks a bit one dimensional and strikes me as a bit of a moron judging by his court appearances and assaulting team mates. Granted he probably appears well rounded compared to Joey Barton but he strikes me as a ponytailed Duncan Ferguson.
Darren Bent: 17 goals and 2 assists in 36 appearances.
Andy Carroll: 13 goals and 6 assists in 26 appearances.

Bent has done it for several seasons in the top flight, Carroll has only had a season and a half. I struggle to understand why the press mocked Villa for spending £18 million on Darren Bent and yet £35 million on Andy Carroll is a great signing?

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Re: Young set for Man Utd
« Reply #76 on: June 08, 2011, 06:27:21 PM »
Andy Carroll cost £35m and earns £85,000 a week I think. I doubt he'll ever be as prolific as Bent but he is more well-rounded and will earn his salary every week with his hold-up play, lay-offs and knock-downs.



More well-rounded? In what respect? He looks a bit one dimensional and strikes me as a bit of a moron judging by his court appearances and assaulting team mates. Granted he probably appears well rounded compared to Joey Barton but he strikes me as a ponytailed Duncan Ferguson.
Darren Bent: 17 goals and 2 assists in 36 appearances.
Andy Carroll: 13 goals and 6 assists in 26 appearances.

Bent has done it for several seasons in the top flight, Carroll has only had a season and a half. I struggle to understand why the press mocked Villa for spending £18 million on Darren Bent and yet £35 million on Andy Carroll is a great signing?


because they are full of knobs like oliver Holt

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Re: Young set for Man Utd
« Reply #77 on: June 08, 2011, 06:27:51 PM »
McAllister, Rooney and Carroll together in Barbados...blimey, I think Del Boy, Rodney and Grandad's trip to Benidorm has been out-weirded.

Offline Flamingo Lane

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Re: Young set for Man Utd
« Reply #78 on: June 08, 2011, 06:29:38 PM »
[quote author=gregnash link=topic=43753.msg1799054#msg1799054 date=1307552401
depends what you want i guess. Rush wasn't much more than a goalscorer but he fired you to god knows how many titles.
[/quote]

Not sure I agree with that.  The finest British player I ever saw play live was Kenny Dalglish, and Dalglish and Rush were an item.

Offline Flamingo Lane

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Re: Young set for Man Utd
« Reply #79 on: June 08, 2011, 06:31:04 PM »
[quote author=gregnash link=topic=43753.msg1799054#msg1799054 date=1307552401
depends what you want i guess. Rush wasn't much more than a goalscorer but he fired you to god knows how many titles.
[/quote]

Not sure I agree with that.  The finest British player I ever saw play live was Kenny Dalglish, and Dalglish and Rush were an item.

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Re: Young set for Man Utd
« Reply #80 on: June 08, 2011, 06:33:12 PM »
Andy Carroll cost £35m and earns £85,000 a week I think. I doubt he'll ever be as prolific as Bent but he is more well-rounded and will earn his salary every week with his hold-up play, lay-offs and knock-downs.



More well-rounded? In what respect? He looks a bit one dimensional and strikes me as a bit of a moron judging by his court appearances and assaulting team mates. Granted he probably appears well rounded compared to Joey Barton but he strikes me as a ponytailed Duncan Ferguson.
Darren Bent: 17 goals and 2 assists in 36 appearances.
Andy Carroll: 13 goals and 6 assists in 26 appearances.

Bent has done it for several seasons in the top flight, Carroll has only had a season and a half. I struggle to understand why the press mocked Villa for spending £18 million on Darren Bent and yet £35 million on Andy Carroll is a great signing?
The press deal in quotes, headlines and soundbites. Analysis doesn't sell because most people aren't interested. Most people are happy to have their opinions spoon-fed to them.

The fact of the matter is, both Bent and Carroll will prove to be worth their respective fees if they do what they were bought to do.

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: Young set for Man Utd
« Reply #81 on: June 08, 2011, 06:35:17 PM »

"and Dalglish and Rush were an item."

eh?
 ???

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Re: Young set for Man Utd
« Reply #82 on: June 08, 2011, 06:40:12 PM »
Its just an unfortunate turn of phrase. What he meant to say was that they were homosexual lovers and probably married by some evil druid priest.

Offline Outcast2006

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Re: Young set for Man Utd
« Reply #83 on: June 08, 2011, 06:55:27 PM »
Redman,

Eyebrows raised at £24m for Bent? I think he proves his worth by scoring more goals than Carroll and Torres after their respective moves and cost far less.
Still early days though.

Bent was good business but it isn't just the transfer fee that determines value.

At £18-24m and £80,000 a week, you're paying a lot of money for a player who doesn't do much except score goals. His goals make him worth it but when he isn't scoring, that's a lot of money to paying him. Similar to Torres for the past 2 years.

Plus in 4-5 years, you'll need to buy a new Darren Bent.

Andy Carroll cost £35m and earns £85,000 a week I think. I doubt he'll ever be as prolific as Bent but he is more well-rounded and will earn his salary every week with his hold-up play, lay-offs and knock-downs.

Plus he won't need replacing for 10 years and if we decide to replace him sooner, he'll be young enough to fetch a decent fee.
£80,000 ? An hour an a half before you made this post claiming 80K you were claiming 70K which is it? Or does it change according to which argument you are trying to make.

Consistency I see is not a trait with Liverpoo or its fans

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Re: Young set for Man Utd
« Reply #84 on: June 08, 2011, 06:59:33 PM »
Redman,

Eyebrows raised at £24m for Bent? I think he proves his worth by scoring more goals than Carroll and Torres after their respective moves and cost far less.
Still early days though.

Bent was good business but it isn't just the transfer fee that determines value.

At £18-24m and £80,000 a week, you're paying a lot of money for a player who doesn't do much except score goals. His goals make him worth it but when he isn't scoring, that's a lot of money to paying him. Similar to Torres for the past 2 years.

Plus in 4-5 years, you'll need to buy a new Darren Bent.

Andy Carroll cost £35m and earns £85,000 a week I think. I doubt he'll ever be as prolific as Bent but he is more well-rounded and will earn his salary every week with his hold-up play, lay-offs and knock-downs.

Plus he won't need replacing for 10 years and if we decide to replace him sooner, he'll be young enough to fetch a decent fee.
£80,000 ? An hour an a half before you made this post claiming 80K you were claiming 70K which is it? Or does it change according to which argument you are trying to make.

Consistency I see is not a trait with Liverpoo or its fans
No it changes according to whether I make a mistake or not. Would you like an apology?

£70,000 or £80,000 - whatever. The point stands.

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Re: Young set for Man Utd
« Reply #85 on: June 08, 2011, 07:50:28 PM »
some of the bickering on here is a bit tedious

Offline dounavilla

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Re: Young set for Man Utd
« Reply #86 on: June 08, 2011, 08:36:21 PM »
bye bye ash !!!

Offline Nirog72

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Re: Young set for Man Utd
« Reply #87 on: June 08, 2011, 09:01:06 PM »
I forgot I was in the Ashley Young thread there for a minute

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Re: Young set for Man Utd
« Reply #88 on: June 08, 2011, 09:22:23 PM »
Its a great opportunity for him and the time is right for him to go for it. I wish him well.

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Re: Young set for Man Utd
« Reply #89 on: June 08, 2011, 09:25:56 PM »
Thanks douna , coz I have just read pages 4 , 5 and 6 on a thread about Ashley Young, and your post was the first time I saw him mentioned !!

 


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