SSN: "Downing won't commit to Villa"

[JJ-AV]

Not a chance will Liverpool finish ahead of Arsenal. People seriously underestimate Wenger.

Liverpool will do very well to get fourth this year. Adam is a good player and I think Henderson will turn out to be worth the fee (eventually), but right now their squad is nowhere near good enough.

[Redman]

You've got a point Eastie, you've got a point.

[Brend'Watkins]

I think some Villa fans talk more bollocks about Liverpool than Liverpool fans.

Don't they just. They couldn't win the league with Alonso and Mascherano in midfield with Torres up front, do people really think they're going to do it with Lucas, Henderson and Carroll in their place?

And they had Torres before he forgot how to play football. 

I can't believe what I'm reading on here at times.  Liverpool will do well if they finish any higher than last season.  They are no where near the top 4.

[hartman_1982]

Teams that will finish above Liverpool next season: Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and Man City. Teams that might finish above Liverpool next season: Spurs, us and Everton.
Nothing they have done this year has made me think "i wish we had signed him." I also think once the King Kenny bollocks blows over, he may not end up being "the messiah" they all thought he would be.

[Billy Walker]

Yes and Dalglish has returned to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end.

They'll finish this season with what they took from Villa Park last season. Nowt.

They'll come close to an F.A. Cup, but goals from Albrighton, Bannan and Collins will knock them out in the semis.

[eastie]

Sometimes you have to be realistic when looking at who is or isn't a big club- sadly we have 1 league title and one fa cup win in the last 90 years or so and however much we may not like it we are not looked at in the same way as Liverpool by neutral fans .

We are a big club on a par with everton I would say but have a long way to go to match Liverpool and their vast worldwide support.

100 years ago we were the man utd and Liverpool of the time but sadly those days are long gone.

[Concrete John]

Sorry, I appear to to have stumbled onto a Liverpool site by mistake?  Could someone point me in the direction of H&V, where I can have a good old natter about Spurs' wagebill?

[Stu]

Teams that will finish above Liverpool next season: Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and Man City. Teams that might finish above Liverpool next season: Spurs, us and Everton.
Nothing they have done this year has made me think "i wish we had signed him." I also think once the King Kenny bollocks blows over, he may not end up being "the messiah" they all thought he would be.

I don't think we'll be anywhere near the top 6. Looking at the situation as of now, I'd say that the club is set up to kick around in mid-table, with the odd cup run here and there.

I agree with the rest of your post though. The pressure will be on Dalgleish this coming season and it'll be interesting to see how he copes with it. A lot of teams are going to have sussed out the way he sets his teams up now.

[TheSandman]

I think some Villa fans talk more bollocks about Liverpool than Liverpool fans.

Indeed, at least Redman has a good excuse.

I think they will reach 4th (if Arsenal have a poor season) or 5th and that is about the limit of what they will manage in the next few years. So more moving sideways rather than forwards or upwards.

[Mazrim]

Sometimes you have to be realistic when looking at who is or isn't a big club- sadly we have 1 league title and one fa cup win in the last 90 years or so and however much we may not like it we are not looked at in the same way as Liverpool by neutral fans .

We are a big club on a par with everton I would say but have a long way to go to match Liverpool and their vast worldwide support.

100 years ago we were the man utd and Liverpool of the time but sadly those days are long gone.

Is that all we've won?

Sorry, here comes my lunch again... blllooooooaaaarrrrgghhh!!!!!!

I have to ask eastie, are you taking the piss or what?

[Jockey Randall]

Sometimes you have to be realistic when looking at who is or isn't a big club- sadly we have 1 league title and one fa cup win in the last 90 years or so and however much we may not like it we are not looked at in the same way as Liverpool by neutral fans .

We are a big club on a par with everton I would say but have a long way to go to match Liverpool and their vast worldwide support.

100 years ago we were the man utd and Liverpool of the time but sadly those days are long gone.

The most shocking statement of the day right here. Unbelievable

[eastie]

As I say as big clubs are ranked we are on a par with everton , we are not as big a club as man utd , arsenal or Liverpool - they are the 3 biggest English clubs in my view - not the best teams but the biggest clubs.

JockY What do you unbelievable about that  statement? Yes we have won the European cup and I had the privilege of seeing us win it , Liverpool have done it 5 times and  forest twice , I am saying our history over the last 90 yrs we haven't won the sort of trophies to be classed up there with the liverpools and man utds.

[Mazrim]

I think eastie has been possessed by the evil retarded spirit of future dead Jim White.

[villa-love]

"12 Jul 2011 14:32:53
Ive beeen told downing is booked into the hilton tomorrow night, medical tomorrow or thursday Jf92"

http://www.liverpool-rumours.co.uk/

They broke the Adam deal before anyone else.

[Concrete John]

As I say as big clubs are ranked we are on a par with everton , we are not as big a club as man utd , arsenal or Liverpool - they are the 3 biggest English clubs in my view - not the best teams but the biggest clubs.

Just out of interest, what criteria do you use to judge a 'big club'?  Numbers through the turnstiles?  History of trophies won?  Recent success?  Financial clout?

To me 'big club' is a meaningless statement as it means different things to different people.  And football is a transient business, so clubs you are classing as 'bigger' now could, for a variety of reasons, be struggling in a year or two and we'd be nicking their best players.