SSN: "Downing won't commit to Villa"

[Legion]

I've got a suggestion. Please be civil. I don't think he's being serious.

[KevinGage]

It was the dreg you no doubt introduced to the thread who mentioned the d word, but no matter.

More delusion.

Excuse my cynicism, but we seem to have an infestation of scabs roughly coinciding with the same time you pitched up here.

[Stu]

I've got a suggestion. Please be civil. I don't think he's being serious.

It's hard to tell, with or without emoticons. Why come on to a Villa board and suggest that us thinking big was delusional?

[Legion]

Redman has been a member for quite a while. myhaha was a recent acquisition who was banned.

[Stu]

It was the dreg you no doubt introduced to the thread who mentioned the d word, but no matter.

More delusion.

Excuse my cynicism, but we seem to have an infestation of scabs roughly coinciding with the same time you pitched up here.

Quite. I read in the Guardian the other day that Dalgleish will make them champions again. Now THAT is delusional. They struggled to get sixth in a season that was terrible in terms of quality last time out, are not in europe, yet are telling everyone that they're about to win the league again. Mad heads, the lot of them.

[Redman]

Excuse my cynicism, but we seem to have an infestation of scabs roughly coinciding with the same time you pitched up here.

It's up to you whether to believe it's a coincidence or not. Doesn't matter to me.

[Stu]

Redman has been a member for quite a while. myhaha was a recent acquisition who was banned.

Yes and his comments make for good debate. BCB's comment however was posted in order to inflame, that's why I got all pissy

[Billy Walker]

Redman, genuine questions:

How's the "Scouse Not English" thing going?  Do The Spirit of Shankly still push this astonishing piece of cultural revisionism?  What do you think was the motivation behind starting up such a group/campaign?

[Stu]

CL is not the be-all-and-end-all. No CL footie hasn't done City's recruitment drive much harm. And we're talking about Vargas and Bastos here, not Sanchez and Neymar.

Being able to offer any player astronomical wages helps though.
You can't offer either CL football or astronomical wages, just being Liverpool and having Kenny won't help sign today's pampered superstar I'm afraid. Welcome to the World of the wannabe also-ran Redman!

I feel it's going to take them some time to accept it. It's a cold, hard reality, that's for certain.

[Redman]

Redman, genuine questions:

How's the "Scouse Not English" thing going?  Do The Spirit of Shankly still push this astonishing piece of cultural revisionism?  What do you think was the motivation behind starting up such a group/campaign?

If I thought it was a genuine question, I'd happily indulge you.

[Redman]

CL is not the be-all-and-end-all. No CL footie hasn't done City's recruitment drive much harm. And we're talking about Vargas and Bastos here, not Sanchez and Neymar.

Being able to offer any player astronomical wages helps though.
You can't offer either CL football or astronomical wages, just being Liverpool and having Kenny won't help sign today's pampered superstar I'm afraid. Welcome to the World of the wannabe also-ran Redman!

I feel it's going to take them some time to accept it. It's a cold, hard reality, that's for certain.

Not being in the CL this season is a cold hard reality.

Not being able to offer large wages isn't. We do that already. And considering most Liverpool supporters attribute the recent downfall to the previous regime, why would we accept our current position outside the top-4 now that regime has gone?

[john e]

its also amazing how much better a player becomes when a fan of a club thinks he is about to join them...

although if you look past the 1 post you have on here, you will see that quite a few fans dont rate downing and never have...

Downing was unlucky enough to be signed during a period when you were all expecting Sneijder and god knows who else. The summer of 2009 was a crazy time for Villa fans and poor Downing has obviously born the brunt of your delusions in the two seasons since.

He shouldn't make the Liverpool first eleven in the manner he does Aston Villas but he'll be handy to have around. What say you to £10 million? A fair sum for a fair player. No more, no less. 

would that be 10 mill for the player you already offered 15 mill for ?

i agree with your sentiments though,
SD is  a fair player on his day, and a waste of space when its not, but your the guys persuing him, i hope you get him,
we actually dont need a replacement for him as we already got a better player in Allbrighton, obviously thats just my opinion, and one i had for the whole of last season when SD was supposedly 'awesome' in most games, something which i failed to see,
 but hey ho, just give us the money and you can keep him

[Eigentor]

why would we accept our current position outside the top-4 now that regime has gone?

Because there is no natural gravity force that pulls Liverpool to the top unless there is some evil Yanks holding you back. Yet you Liverpool fans seemingly believe so.

I'm not saying that you cannot get back into the top 4, but I suspect that you'll find it a lot harder than you believe it will be.

[steffo]

Put yourself in SD shoes....

Same wages......

Kenny Dalgish manager or Alex Mcleish.

Bent & Abnoglahor or Carroll & Scharez

To supply the strike force or work with the manager?

[VillaAlways]

Put yourself in SD shoes....

Same wages......

Kenny Dalgish manager or Alex Mcleish.

Bent & Abnoglahor or Carroll & Scharez

To supply the strike force or work with the manager?

Not up to SD though is it.He has got 2 years left on his contract