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Author Topic: The future of Houllier and McAllister?  (Read 377312 times)

Offline Merv

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Re: Houllier and McAllister out!
« Reply #1095 on: May 18, 2011, 05:30:22 PM »
I can't help thinking that, if we follow the middle ground between a safe and steady option (Moyes) and someone a tad more adventurous who could eventually steer us towards bigger and better things (Benitez), we come to....

Martin Jol.


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Re: Houllier and McAllister out!
« Reply #1096 on: May 18, 2011, 05:32:53 PM »
Its difficult to see that Moyes would offer us anything that MON didnt.

Benitez or hughes for me.

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: Houllier and McAllister out!
« Reply #1097 on: May 18, 2011, 05:37:29 PM »
how many youth players did rafa bring through at Liverpool? Ask any liverpool fan, he ruined their youth policy and he will do the same at villa.  the likes of Bannan, Albrighton will not get a look in.  I wouldnt be happy with Rafa as manager but would support him as all I want is for the villa to do well and be succesful and there wouldnt be no point in being negative from the start.

Ironic, as everything I have read is that Benitez re-built the youth set up and it is his work that is now paying dividends, which makes sense as there is bound to be a delay in productivity when you're talking about youth football.

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Re: Houllier and McAllister out!
« Reply #1098 on: May 18, 2011, 05:43:46 PM »
I hate to bring up the dreaded director of football/technical director role again but I notice that Hodson has been saying how good the guy at West Brom is, providing (a small amount of) evidence that the role can work in the UK.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/may/16/west-bromwich-albion-everton-premier-league

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Re: Houllier and McAllister out!
« Reply #1099 on: May 18, 2011, 05:44:09 PM »
Its difficult to see that Moyes would offer us anything that MON didnt.

Benitez or hughes for me.
You forget the eyes...The eyes...

Offline VillaZogmariner

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Re: Houllier and McAllister out!
« Reply #1100 on: May 18, 2011, 05:52:23 PM »
how many youth players did rafa bring through at Liverpool? Ask any liverpool fan, he ruined their youth policy and he will do the same at villa.  the likes of Bannan, Albrighton will not get a look in.  I wouldnt be happy with Rafa as manager but would support him as all I want is for the villa to do well and be succesful and there wouldnt be no point in being negative from the start.

Ironic, as everything I have read is that Benitez re-built the youth set up and it is his work that is now paying dividends, which makes sense as there is bound to be a delay in productivity when you're talking about youth football.

They also won back to back Youth Cup Finals whilst he was there.

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Re: Houllier and McAllister out!
« Reply #1101 on: May 18, 2011, 05:59:49 PM »
Its difficult to see that Moyes would offer us anything that MON didnt.

Benitez or hughes for me.

He did it with tiny amount of cash that MON had & nothing to choose between them over the seasons Martin was here.

Offline VillaZogmariner

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Re: Houllier and McAllister out!
« Reply #1102 on: May 18, 2011, 06:06:34 PM »
Its difficult to see that Moyes would offer us anything that MON didnt.

Benitez or hughes for me.

He did it with tiny amount of cash that MON had & nothing to choose between them over the seasons Martin was here.

As I've said before about this theory that Moyes had little money to spend (or tiny amount of cash) -



That's a fair whack of cash there. (Just over £65m on 6 players to be exact).

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Re: Houllier and McAllister out!
« Reply #1103 on: May 18, 2011, 06:06:54 PM »
Here's a link to all Benitez's tranfer dealings during his 6 years at Anfield. He certainly likes to dabble in the transfer market, bringing in 77 players.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/7675751/Rafael-Benitezs-transfer-dealings-during-his-six-year-reign-at-Liverpool.html

There's also an interesting link to a Henry Winter article there that's well worth a read. The only surprising thing is that he spent less in 6 years than MON spent in 4.

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Re: Houllier and McAllister out!
« Reply #1104 on: May 18, 2011, 06:09:32 PM »
Its difficult to see that Moyes would offer us anything that MON didnt.

Benitez or hughes for me.

He did it with tiny amount of cash that MON had & nothing to choose between them over the seasons Martin was here.

As I've said before about this theory that Moyes had little money to spend (or tiny amount of cash) -



That's a fair whack of cash there. (Just over £65m on 6 players to be exact).

Fair point, but how does that compare to MON? Just a question. I still think he is best choice for the job currently.

Offline VillaZogmariner

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Re: Houllier and McAllister out!
« Reply #1105 on: May 18, 2011, 06:14:56 PM »
Off the top of my head, the top 6 signings (price wise) made by MoN would be -

Milner £12m
Downing £12m
Young £9.5m
Reo-Coker £8.5m
Cuellar £7.8m
Warnock £6m
TOTAL - £55.8m

Have I missed anyone bigger?

Offline TheSandman

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Re: Houllier and McAllister out!
« Reply #1106 on: May 18, 2011, 06:15:22 PM »
Off the top of my head, the top 6 signings (price wise) made by MoN would be -

Milner £12m
Downing £12m
Young £9.5m
Reo-Coker £8.5m
Cuellar £7.8m
Warnock £6m
TOTAL - £55.8m

Have I missed anyone bigger?


Davies

Offline charleeco7

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Re: Houllier and McAllister out!
« Reply #1107 on: May 18, 2011, 06:19:04 PM »
I honestly don't understand see what Mark Hughes would offer us. I see him a bit of a nearly man, who gets work on the back of his name alone.

Offline Shrek

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Re: Houllier and McAllister out!
« Reply #1108 on: May 18, 2011, 06:20:34 PM »
Its difficult to see that Moyes would offer us anything that MON didnt.

Benitez or hughes for me.

He did it with tiny amount of cash that MON had & nothing to choose between them over the seasons Martin was here.

As I've said before about this theory that Moyes had little money to spend (or tiny amount of cash) -



That's a fair whack of cash there. (Just over £65m on 6 players to be exact).

Big difference, Moyes actually finished 4th, he was just very unlucky in the team they got in the qualifiers.

And I think net spend should be considered there because he recouped around £55 million from just 2 players(Rooney, Lescott)

MON sold Cahill for fuck all and bought Zat Knight, says it all really.

Offline VillaZogmariner

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Re: Houllier and McAllister out!
« Reply #1109 on: May 18, 2011, 06:22:54 PM »
Its difficult to see that Moyes would offer us anything that MON didnt.

Benitez or hughes for me.

He did it with tiny amount of cash that MON had & nothing to choose between them over the seasons Martin was here.

As I've said before about this theory that Moyes had little money to spend (or tiny amount of cash) -



That's a fair whack of cash there. (Just over £65m on 6 players to be exact).

Big difference, Moyes actually finished 4th, he was just very unlucky in the team they got in the qualifiers.

And I think net spend should be considered there because he recouped around £55 million from just 2 players(Rooney, Lescott)

MON sold Cahill for fuck all and bought Zat Knight, says it all really.

MoN sold Cahill for £5m didn't he?

I can see your point about the "net", but he got lucky with having Rooney coming through. Lescott though he sold on for a good profit.


 


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