I really don't get the negativity. We lost after battering them and they scored two very fortunate goals. It is our first defeat in 5, is this just 5 weeks of anti GED built up? Or is it just because it was a derby?
Quote from: toronto villa on May 01, 2011, 07:33:04 PMQuote from: bigad82 on May 01, 2011, 11:09:03 AMQuote from: toronto villa on May 01, 2011, 05:27:34 AMQuote from: pauliebentnuts on April 30, 2011, 08:30:13 PMQuote from: barrysleftfoot on April 30, 2011, 08:25:18 PM To be fair paulie, regardless of who the manager was, i think the complete lack of professionalism by about 5/6 senior players cannot not have had an effect.Of course it has, as i said, I'm just curious as to why Toronto is absolving the manager of blame.I'm not at all. I just don't see how he can be blamed for the defeat today. There is no way any of us know how today could have ended up if he was on the sideline. Up until his illness we had gone 4 unbeaten. Not earth shattering I grant you, but unbeaten nonetheless. At 1-0 at HT I didn't read any Houllier out posts. Just because we threw it away in the 2nd half is down to players and staff at the game today. It's as much McAllister's fault for not making the right tactical changes as it is for the players' inability to finish off their chances, and the defences for not keeping them from scoring. We simply didn't know how to break down the opposition when asked to be the dominant team in the game. Is Houllier responsible for some of that because he's been the manager this season? Off course. But then these same players under MON couldn't do it either, so I'm not going to say it's all Houllier's fault.I'm just not going to get carried away when we lose, neither am I going to dance in the streets when we win right now. I'm willing to give him the opportunity to properly put his stamp on the club, both in terms of coaches and players. This is a manager that has won a lot in his career, so my guess he has to have some idea of what it takes to build a successful club side. Each to their own of their view of that. If it's like this next season, he'll have very few people that will come to his defence.If GH slept with your misses you would forgive him.That's ok. I've been pounding your wife because she wanted a less emotional man in her life.I've said since the start Houllier has done nothing wrong and the world is great, haven't I? FFS. You know, once you calm down and are able to put down the snotty tissues you'll find it isn't the end of the world.The only person who is getting emotional is you.Anybody who has a go, you come on here crying your eyes up,telling everybody how wrong they are.By the way I got both fists up your wifes arse and there was still room for more
Quote from: bigad82 on May 01, 2011, 11:09:03 AMQuote from: toronto villa on May 01, 2011, 05:27:34 AMQuote from: pauliebentnuts on April 30, 2011, 08:30:13 PMQuote from: barrysleftfoot on April 30, 2011, 08:25:18 PM To be fair paulie, regardless of who the manager was, i think the complete lack of professionalism by about 5/6 senior players cannot not have had an effect.Of course it has, as i said, I'm just curious as to why Toronto is absolving the manager of blame.I'm not at all. I just don't see how he can be blamed for the defeat today. There is no way any of us know how today could have ended up if he was on the sideline. Up until his illness we had gone 4 unbeaten. Not earth shattering I grant you, but unbeaten nonetheless. At 1-0 at HT I didn't read any Houllier out posts. Just because we threw it away in the 2nd half is down to players and staff at the game today. It's as much McAllister's fault for not making the right tactical changes as it is for the players' inability to finish off their chances, and the defences for not keeping them from scoring. We simply didn't know how to break down the opposition when asked to be the dominant team in the game. Is Houllier responsible for some of that because he's been the manager this season? Off course. But then these same players under MON couldn't do it either, so I'm not going to say it's all Houllier's fault.I'm just not going to get carried away when we lose, neither am I going to dance in the streets when we win right now. I'm willing to give him the opportunity to properly put his stamp on the club, both in terms of coaches and players. This is a manager that has won a lot in his career, so my guess he has to have some idea of what it takes to build a successful club side. Each to their own of their view of that. If it's like this next season, he'll have very few people that will come to his defence.If GH slept with your misses you would forgive him.That's ok. I've been pounding your wife because she wanted a less emotional man in her life.I've said since the start Houllier has done nothing wrong and the world is great, haven't I? FFS. You know, once you calm down and are able to put down the snotty tissues you'll find it isn't the end of the world.
Quote from: toronto villa on May 01, 2011, 05:27:34 AMQuote from: pauliebentnuts on April 30, 2011, 08:30:13 PMQuote from: barrysleftfoot on April 30, 2011, 08:25:18 PM To be fair paulie, regardless of who the manager was, i think the complete lack of professionalism by about 5/6 senior players cannot not have had an effect.Of course it has, as i said, I'm just curious as to why Toronto is absolving the manager of blame.I'm not at all. I just don't see how he can be blamed for the defeat today. There is no way any of us know how today could have ended up if he was on the sideline. Up until his illness we had gone 4 unbeaten. Not earth shattering I grant you, but unbeaten nonetheless. At 1-0 at HT I didn't read any Houllier out posts. Just because we threw it away in the 2nd half is down to players and staff at the game today. It's as much McAllister's fault for not making the right tactical changes as it is for the players' inability to finish off their chances, and the defences for not keeping them from scoring. We simply didn't know how to break down the opposition when asked to be the dominant team in the game. Is Houllier responsible for some of that because he's been the manager this season? Off course. But then these same players under MON couldn't do it either, so I'm not going to say it's all Houllier's fault.I'm just not going to get carried away when we lose, neither am I going to dance in the streets when we win right now. I'm willing to give him the opportunity to properly put his stamp on the club, both in terms of coaches and players. This is a manager that has won a lot in his career, so my guess he has to have some idea of what it takes to build a successful club side. Each to their own of their view of that. If it's like this next season, he'll have very few people that will come to his defence.If GH slept with your misses you would forgive him.
Quote from: pauliebentnuts on April 30, 2011, 08:30:13 PMQuote from: barrysleftfoot on April 30, 2011, 08:25:18 PM To be fair paulie, regardless of who the manager was, i think the complete lack of professionalism by about 5/6 senior players cannot not have had an effect.Of course it has, as i said, I'm just curious as to why Toronto is absolving the manager of blame.I'm not at all. I just don't see how he can be blamed for the defeat today. There is no way any of us know how today could have ended up if he was on the sideline. Up until his illness we had gone 4 unbeaten. Not earth shattering I grant you, but unbeaten nonetheless. At 1-0 at HT I didn't read any Houllier out posts. Just because we threw it away in the 2nd half is down to players and staff at the game today. It's as much McAllister's fault for not making the right tactical changes as it is for the players' inability to finish off their chances, and the defences for not keeping them from scoring. We simply didn't know how to break down the opposition when asked to be the dominant team in the game. Is Houllier responsible for some of that because he's been the manager this season? Off course. But then these same players under MON couldn't do it either, so I'm not going to say it's all Houllier's fault.I'm just not going to get carried away when we lose, neither am I going to dance in the streets when we win right now. I'm willing to give him the opportunity to properly put his stamp on the club, both in terms of coaches and players. This is a manager that has won a lot in his career, so my guess he has to have some idea of what it takes to build a successful club side. Each to their own of their view of that. If it's like this next season, he'll have very few people that will come to his defence.
Quote from: barrysleftfoot on April 30, 2011, 08:25:18 PM To be fair paulie, regardless of who the manager was, i think the complete lack of professionalism by about 5/6 senior players cannot not have had an effect.Of course it has, as i said, I'm just curious as to why Toronto is absolving the manager of blame.
To be fair paulie, regardless of who the manager was, i think the complete lack of professionalism by about 5/6 senior players cannot not have had an effect.
no problem.
Please give it a rest.
When was the last time we beat Wigan at home?