The Throstles v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[eamonn]

Awful. Truly dire. Our goal is a flukey OG, we have an extra man for the last half hour and have no idea how to create chances. I remember when we lost at home to Sunderland, Houllier said after we had a man sent off the game changed and there was little chance of us winning. We must be the most defeatist, spineless team in the division.

This has almost been as bad as O'Dreary's last season. West Brom haven't beaten us since Johnny fecking Giles was their manager. Fuck them all off in the summer, management and players. Rip it up and start again.

[TopDeck113]

Another defeat from a position that 12 months ago we would have held on to.  From start to finish this season has been shit.

[cheltenhamlion]

Looking at BBC Sport and it seem Albion is celebrating as if they won the FA Cup.

What did you expect? For all the cobblers about Wolves, they like us as much as I enjoy eating shit sandwiches. Very silly to throw away a lead from there against a team that aren't very good. We got too gung ho for our own good at the end and should have kept Reo Coker on.

[ez]

I wish Houllier the best of health but i'll be glad if we don't see him at VP again. What a terrible appointment he was.

[CJ]

How many years since we lost to Albion - 20-odd? Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. Why take NRC off and bring Pires on? If anyone needed to replace NRC it should have been Delph. But we still had over half an hour against 10 men and still didn't look like scoring. The real worry is that we're still not mathematically safe

[TheSandman]

Someone please explain how any one could believe that bringing Pires on was a good idea?

Why not? He's experienced. And no way should we be 'experimenting' with youth. They'll just fuck it all up.

True. I said the same thing on another thread and was thinking the exact same thing when Pires came on.

[themossman]

I fucking hate the team, most of the squad, the management. Never seen a team with less collective balls in villa colours. In retrospect it was clear that players would do fuck all for McAllister, and then he further hamstrings us with a retarded substitution. I hope they slash and burn this summer, players and management, and start again, and not in fucking August. If Randy is not decisive this summer in cutting out the shite I will have finally gone from pro to anti. We are where we are because GH/GM was a mistake, which was not rectified, and far, far shitter teams with better managers are making mugs of us all over the place. What a massive pile of fucking shit of a season.

[BannedUserIAT]

Houllier may have had a heart-attack but Gary Mac's clearly had a psychotic episode.
Pires? Sorry, but I just can't get over that.

[deanl123]

I'm of the opinion that Houllier should get next season at least to try to sort us out properly, but then something like this just reminds me of all the problems that have been allowed to persist all season.

A wretched season in which the management team and players have done very little to make us think they're worthy of being associated with Aston Villa.

It's also not over yet, worryingly. Three games left, Wigan, Arsenal and Liverpool, none of which will be easy.

If Houllier stays. we will go down next season. We would have been down this season had Saint Randy not pulled Bent out of his back pocket. Time to admit he's past it now, and let's move on.

[barrysleftfoot]

  I'm more angry after that result, than after any result this season tbh.

  Angry that LYoung is playing LB, gives a stupid ball away that leads to a free kick for their 1st goal.Not strong enough for their 2nd.

  Angry that Petrov is even in the squad.Too slow, can't pick a pass, did'nt track his man back for their 2nd.A lazy lazy player.

 Pires.....why, good player, but 3 years too laqte for a club of our stature.

 AYoung.....another fruitless performance.Can't think of one telling contribution.

 Gabby.....time is up son.Never looked a danger in the whole of the game.

 If Ashley goes in the summer, then good luck to him, the others i have mentioned, time to get rid.

 Collins can join them as well.

[ktvillan]

We needed a point to be safe and should have got at least that today.  If we don't get it against Wigan it's going to be squeaky bum time again.  At one all and a man up there should have been only one winner. A bit unlucky with both goals but then ours was jammy as well and the defending was still worse than woeful.  I'm afraid Gabby contributes little if he isn't scoring and would play Heskey ahead of him every time.

As for A Young and his free kicks there were all sorts of excuse made for him on a thread a while back such as the new ball making them difficult but I've seen plenty of players get them on target regularly.  The long and short of it is Ash is just shit at free kicks and everyone except Ash and the management have known it for months.  I won;t be sorry to see him go for that reason alone.

[deanl123]

Ashley Young's value is dropping every game. We'll be lucky to get £7M for him now.

He'll end up at Fulham or somewhere similar if he keeps stinking the place up week after week.

[Toronto Villa]

the game changed at the sending off, when it forced us to be the dominant team. We are not built for that at all, and you can see how uncomfortable the team is when they are being asked to push forward. We are much better soaking up pressure and exposing the open spaces on the break. This is a result of five years under MON where we became very good at block and break tactics.

I don't blame McAllister entirely for this. He brought on Pires to try and open things up knowing full well Albion would close ranks. It didn't work, and the rest of our players simply didn't have the knowledge or ability to get it done. Inevtiably with a less than secure defence Albion did to us, what we have done to others for the past few years.

We need personnel changes at the club if we are to play in the manner Houllier wants us to. That much is abundantly clear.

[VillaZogmariner]

I really can't get my head around people blaming Houllier for today's result.

[SteveN]

FFS - I don't think we will get another point this season, I just hope 41 points is enough to stay up. 

We need a complete overall this summer.