The Throstles v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Clampy]

Does anyone else think we missed Heskey yesterday? Gabby and Bent did'nt quite work really did it?

[Surrey Villain]

Does anyone else think we missed Heskey yesterday? Gabby and Bent did'nt quite work really did it?

No, because Gabby spent most of the game out on the left again while Ashley Young wandered everywhere else doing bugger all.

[JUAN PABLO]

Does anyone else think we missed Heskey yesterday? Gabby and Bent did'nt quite work really did it?

thats the thing , If we did miss Heskey , its bloody worrying.

[JUAN PABLO]

I've just heard Gmac say on TV ' We need to win against Wigan and get our first double of the season'     

plonker , get that twat out of the club now. He hasnt got a clue.

We've done the double over Wrist Ham.

Exactly , he's managing our club and fook knows what hes been up to. He aint got a clue.   I dont mind Houlier getting another season but not with that man next to him.  If he is going to be , then houlier can fook off too..   

[Simba]

What is worrying is that nothing positive was done to change a clearly flawed set up.  Irrespective of Heskey.

[darren woolley]

Again i was disappointed i thought 1-0 up we would go on and win it but we feck it up again every time when will we ever learn it now becomes our cup final next week when we play Wigan beat them and we are safe.

[bertlambshank]

To be fair paulie, regardless of who the manager was, i think the complete lack of professionalism by about 5/6 senior players cannot not have had an effect.

Of course it has, as i said, I'm just curious as to why Toronto is absolving the manager of blame.

I'm not at all. I just don't see how he can be blamed for the defeat today. There is no way any of us know how today could have ended up if he was on the sideline. Up until his illness we had gone 4 unbeaten. Not earth shattering I grant you, but unbeaten nonetheless. At 1-0 at HT I didn't read any Houllier out posts. Just because we threw it away in the 2nd half is down to players and staff at the game today. It's as much McAllister's fault for not making the right tactical changes as it is for the players' inability to finish off their chances, and the defences for not keeping them from scoring. We simply didn't know how to break down the opposition when asked to be the dominant team in the game. Is Houllier responsible for some of that because he's been the manager this season? Off course. But then these same players under MON couldn't do it either, so I'm not going to say it's all Houllier's fault.

I'm just not going to get carried away when we lose, neither am I going to dance in the streets when we win right now. I'm willing to give him the opportunity to properly put his stamp on the club, both in terms of coaches and players. This is a manager that has won a lot in his career, so my guess he has to have some idea of what it takes to build a successful club side. Each to their own of their view of that. If it's like this next season, he'll have very few people that will come to his defence.

If GH slept with your misses you would forgive him.

[TimTheVillain]

We were SHIT , only Downing can hold his head up high ( again ) ... what chance does Benty have liviing on scraps, so you cant blame him either.

Ash was dreadful , maybe he does need a change of scenery ?

N'Zogbia for me.

Oh and Dunne , Ffs, drive him to Harry Ramsdens and leave him there I say .

[Pete3206]

Ashley Young's petulant swing of the ball in the last minute summed up the whole sorry mess. There was no effort in that free kick and he was basically saying fuck off as he took it. The Pires for Reo-Coker substitution was the most baffling decision in a season of baffling decisions. Abysmal.

[olaftab]

When was the last time we beat Wigan at home?

[Mike Jeffries]

Only plus point was being back in a pub in Brum by 5.30 pm (And meeting Frank and the German Villans there).

I really can't remember a Villa side that was so poor at making key decisions at the back and going forward.  Well no in truth I can, it was our last relegation team - but this team has so much more natural talent than that one, so why?

[hartman_1982]

I really don't get the negativity. We lost after battering them and they scored two very fortunate goals. It is our first defeat in 5, is this just 5 weeks of anti GED built up? Or is it just because it was a derby?

[Mike Jeffries]

I really don't get the negativity. We lost after battering them and they scored two very fortunate goals. It is our first defeat in 5, is this just 5 weeks of anti GED built up? Or is it just because it was a derby?

It's the later, but also for me that this team has thrown away so many winning positions this season which is inevitably really, really, bloody frustrating.

[UsualSuspect]

I really don't get the negativity. We lost after battering them and they scored two very fortunate goals. It is our first defeat in 5, is this just 5 weeks of anti GED built up? Or is it just because it was a derby?

If you don't get the negativity you may as well give up now.

[hartman_1982]

I really don't get the negativity. We lost after battering them and they scored two very fortunate goals. It is our first defeat in 5, is this just 5 weeks of anti GED built up? Or is it just because it was a derby?

If you don't get the negativity you may as well give up now.

Well explain. I have seen a team that, when it has all its players fit produce some really entertaining attacking football since January. We lost our first game in 5, after our manager nearly was taken seriously ill and we were still very unfortunate. It hurts losing a derby and for what its worth i think Gmac should be replaced in the summer but some of the criticism of GED is outrageous. Our two centre backs that started yesterday are a fucking disgrace, neither will be 1st choice after the summer IMO and despite that we have been on a decent run. Watch the highlights from yesterday and tell me we didnt deserve 3 points. Both there goals were fortunate, and while i appreciate ours was as well, we created far more than they did. We were unfortunate to lose away to a team in good form, move on.