Villa enlist Glenn Roeder

[Chris Jameson]

I've lost track of who needs to get a grip.

[Villa'Zawg]

This is an odd little thread, full of posters angrily insisting we shouldn't be getting worked up.

[Greg N'Ash]

I can understand why people aren't happy really even ignoring his iffy record. It's the face i think - he always look permanently depressed - if a rainy bank holiday had a face, then Roeder's would be it

[not3bad]

I've lost track of who needs to get a grip.

Aston Villa have appointed Gripper Stebson of Grange Hill fame to investigate the matter.

[Chico Hamilton III]

What if we got Tord Grip as a scout? would everyone on here be happy then?

[Bosco81]

Perhaps we'll be signing Nigel Quashie as the playing equivalent of Glenn Roeder.

[KevinGage]

Paying people gods knows how much to watch forthcoming opponents and preparing dossiers ? Dont managers and the senior coaching staff have TVs and subscriptions to Sky, ESPN etc ?

Problem with that is the camera primarily follows the ball in televised matches, so you don't always get the full picture.  What kind of shape do your future opponents keep with/without the ball, does a certain player switch off and get pulled out of position easily, what type of runs does the forward make and so on. In a televised match you might only become fully aware of any of that if it actually results in a goal or a chance.
It might not in that specific game, but it could still be a weakness to exploit or a strength to be wary of.

Don't see a huge issue with Roeder's input truth be told. It's quite likely that GH and Gary Mac between them have already watched our opponents in advance and have some idea of how they're likely to be set up. He might be just confirming what they already know.

[levico]

GH. Gary Mac, Roeder - we are well and truly f*cked.

[dave.woodhall]

If you ever happen to be watching a game next to a former player, they see it so totally differently you may as well be at a different match.

[TheSandman]

I think you are being a tad cruel  Rip Van Bentfletch , ( according to Wiki )  under Roeder, Newcastle won the 2006 Intertoto Cup this made Roeder the first manager to win a trophy for Newcastle since 1969 .  Although Newcastle's league form was inconsistent, majorly due to first-team player injuries and having to rely on in-experienced players from United's Youth Academy to compete at top flight level, Newcastle maintained a mid-table position.
Roeder won 45% of his matches, enough in a single season to qualify for European competition . 
 I,m not a big fan of Roeder as a Manager myself but  there is a tendency on this site to overdo the hostility , for all his faults he comes across as a thoroughly decent person who,s Coaching knowledge is widely respected in Footballing circles . So , please , lets lay off the venomous hysteria that passes for reasonable comment on these pages and give the guy a break , he is , after all doing a job of work for the Club we all love and in that we should wish him well , not jump on the Crucifixion bandwagon..................Godzvilla !

I agree. At most clubs they have any old chump doing the job usually some former player possibly without any record in management. Sort of akin to us sending Paul McGrath out to do the job. At least Roeder has some managerial experience. It is not exactly the most important job in the world or one that Glenn Roeder is under qualified for. Storm in a tea cup.

This is classic media shit-stirring.  So what if he's doing some work for the club?  Every club does this type of thing and will hire all sorts of folk for all sorts of small, stop-gap positions.  I read Nursey's article on this in The Mirror and if ever a non-event of a story was written up and presented to wind up Villa fans than that was it.

 I'm sure Nursey will have plenty more shit-stirring stories lined up for the weeks ahead.  Keep the positivity going and ignore absolute tripe like this would be my view.

Again. This. Media fuelled hysteria. It's almost like they are trying to destabilise the club and the supporters. The only way we can beat relegation is if we all pull in the same direction and get behind the team. They may not deserve it but we should do it. Leave the recriminations for the close season.

[The Left Side]

I think Roeder isn't a bad coach, his management has to be questionable with his results/relegation ratio but if he can get the defense working together then give him a shot.

[pauliewalnuts]

Why are people getting so worked up over this?

There are plenty of truly shit, rightly worrying things to get in a strop about, strikes me that "who we send to do a bit of scouting" is pretty far down the gripe list.

[WikiVilla]

When a PLC is struggling, they normally get a big hitter in (even if only in a non exec type role) so that the message it sends out is a positive one and the share price is stimulated etc

What we've done here is the exact opposite. Thank God not many of the press have picked up on it (yet)

[Chris Smith]

When a PLC is struggling, they normally get a big hitter in (even if only in a non exec type role) so that the message it sends out is a positive one and the share price is stimulated etc

What we've done here is the exact opposite. Thank God not many of the press have picked up on it (yet)

That is quite possibly the most inane post you've ever made and believe me it has had some competition.

He's doing a bit of part time scouting, that's all.

[WikiVilla]

the worry is GH / GM will listen to any advice he offers
As surely thats the point in employing him ?
Crazy move