The row between Everton and Villa fans today...

[not3bad]

We won the Euroepan Cup in 1982. Everton have always thought they got cheated out of winning it in 1986.

Blimey Dave, but how is that our fault ?

We won it, they didn't.

How petty and small minded...

And presumptious thinking that all they had to do to win in in 1986 was enter the competetion.  I seem to remember winning it was actually quite difficult.

[DeKuip]

Or maybe their particular dislike of us is more to do with the fact that we're clubs of similar size, crowds, history etc, yet we're kings of an entire region of the country and they're only second best in their own area of town. It all goes back to bitterness and jealousy again.

[WikiVilla]

We seem to be becoming quite a disliked club
Not sure why, but it's been building for a while

[VillaZogmariner]

Good.

[WikiVilla]

why is it good ? Surely we need the media on our side ?

[VillaZogmariner]

Why do we?

I like the fact that other clubs hate us, means that we're doing something to upset their own positions.

[DeKuip]

We seem to be becoming quite a disliked club
Not sure why, but it's been building for a while

I blame David Cameron

[Concrete John]

why is it good ? Surely we need the media on our side ?

When have they ever been on our side?  They generally ignore us unless we're doing badly!

[not3bad]

why is it good ? Surely we need the media on our side ?

Don't worry about the media.  Spurs, Chelsea and Manure are widely hated but the press are permanently stuck up their arses.  In fact a bit of hatred gets you more attention media wise.

[Greg N'Ash]

Or maybe their particular dislike of us is more to do with the fact that we're clubs of similar size, crowds, history etc, yet we're kings of an entire region of the country and they're only second best in their own area of town. It all goes back to bitterness and jealousy again.

traditionally Everton were the big club before Shankly turned up so i can see why they'd find liverpool annoying - more so than they actually seem to. As for us, it seems a bit pointless as any animosity has to be a two way thing to work, and i doubt many Villa fans can muster more than a "meh" where Everton are concerned

[lovejoy]

I actually think Everton are the club closest to Villa in terms of stature, history, position etc. I wouldn't let a few small minded idiots posting on thier forums detract from this. I also don't subscribe to the they hate us so i must hate them arguement.

[Chris Smith]

The article is contrived and has clearly had little thought given to it. As they've declined to put up TVW's well reasoned response it shows that they aren't interested in the truth just in being controversial, don't give him the satisfaction of being bothered.

[damon loves JT]

I think that of the larger clubs, they are the most inward-looking. If you spend your life in a city you love, but everyone outside Liverpool identifies it with a club you loathe, you will start to resent the outside world.

They won't groundshare; they won't move to Kirkby; they're unable to move forward because they see it as an admission of failure.

So they're stuck in their little bunker, feeling angry at everyone because they're not the biggest team in Liverpool.

[WikiVilla]

They (the club) DO want to move to Kirkby, the Govt called the scheme in though

[DeKuip]

They did make me smile on a trip to Liverpool last year.

There's a new shopping centre called "LIVERPOOL ONE" in which Everton have opened a club shop and called it "EVERTON TWO".