Quote from: clampy on March 25, 2011, 08:21:04 AMQuote from: toronto villa on March 25, 2011, 03:13:08 AM There is an unbelievable amount of people on here that are dying for us to lose the next game just so they can come on and rant for days on end. However, it appears that some of you actually are wallowing in this, wanting the situation to get worse. Just so you can say once again what a complete wanker Houllier is and how the club is a complete disaster. What a load of bollocks. I want Houiller gone, we're 1 point off relegation in case you had'nt noticed, but i want us to win up at Everton next week to help get ourselves out of it and i think you'll find the majority of people on here do too. is it bollocks? Do you think a protest will serve any purpose? Those are the people who are dying for us to lose because it only adds support to their agenda. I'm not contesting whether people have an opinion on Houllier. I'm stating that a protest will be entirely counter productive.
Quote from: toronto villa on March 25, 2011, 03:13:08 AM There is an unbelievable amount of people on here that are dying for us to lose the next game just so they can come on and rant for days on end. However, it appears that some of you actually are wallowing in this, wanting the situation to get worse. Just so you can say once again what a complete wanker Houllier is and how the club is a complete disaster. What a load of bollocks. I want Houiller gone, we're 1 point off relegation in case you had'nt noticed, but i want us to win up at Everton next week to help get ourselves out of it and i think you'll find the majority of people on here do too.
There is an unbelievable amount of people on here that are dying for us to lose the next game just so they can come on and rant for days on end. However, it appears that some of you actually are wallowing in this, wanting the situation to get worse. Just so you can say once again what a complete wanker Houllier is and how the club is a complete disaster.
Quote from: toronto villa on March 25, 2011, 12:23:27 PMQuote from: clampy on March 25, 2011, 08:21:04 AMQuote from: toronto villa on March 25, 2011, 03:13:08 AM There is an unbelievable amount of people on here that are dying for us to lose the next game just so they can come on and rant for days on end. However, it appears that some of you actually are wallowing in this, wanting the situation to get worse. Just so you can say once again what a complete wanker Houllier is and how the club is a complete disaster. What a load of bollocks. I want Houiller gone, we're 1 point off relegation in case you had'nt noticed, but i want us to win up at Everton next week to help get ourselves out of it and i think you'll find the majority of people on here do too. is it bollocks? Do you think a protest will serve any purpose? Those are the people who are dying for us to lose because it only adds support to their agenda. I'm not contesting whether people have an opinion on Houllier. I'm stating that a protest will be entirely counter productive.No, i don't think a protest is a good idea, i said that yesterday. The way you worded you post (if you read it again) it came across that you thought people on this site wanted us to lose in order to protest, and whilst i can't speak for every single person, i think you'll find the majority of people on here don't want that at all.
Quote from: clampy on March 25, 2011, 12:32:41 PMQuote from: toronto villa on March 25, 2011, 12:23:27 PMQuote from: clampy on March 25, 2011, 08:21:04 AMQuote from: toronto villa on March 25, 2011, 03:13:08 AM There is an unbelievable amount of people on here that are dying for us to lose the next game just so they can come on and rant for days on end. However, it appears that some of you actually are wallowing in this, wanting the situation to get worse. Just so you can say once again what a complete wanker Houllier is and how the club is a complete disaster. What a load of bollocks. I want Houiller gone, we're 1 point off relegation in case you had'nt noticed, but i want us to win up at Everton next week to help get ourselves out of it and i think you'll find the majority of people on here do too. is it bollocks? Do you think a protest will serve any purpose? Those are the people who are dying for us to lose because it only adds support to their agenda. I'm not contesting whether people have an opinion on Houllier. I'm stating that a protest will be entirely counter productive.No, i don't think a protest is a good idea, i said that yesterday. The way you worded you post (if you read it again) it came across that you thought people on this site wanted us to lose in order to protest, and whilst i can't speak for every single person, i think you'll find the majority of people on here don't want that at all.I agree. In fact most people think the protest is a stupid idea. But there are people on here that want us to lose naively thinking it will facilitate Houllier's removal. Certainly people planning the protest think that somehow the board will listen to them and sack the manager at the earliest opportunity.
Quote from: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 24, 2011, 05:22:58 PMI am all for free speech and people being entitled to their opinions, but anybody in favour of organised protests or demonstrations because of our present predicament is a complete and utter idiot, totally wrong in their actions and themselves show a total lack of understanding of the history of Aston Villa.We have players underperforming and a manager who on the present evidence is not doing an effective job so our team are losing games. Yes thats horrible and I hate it, but the club itself is not disorganised or badly run. The team on the pitch may be rudderless right now, but the club itself is not.Boo and moan during the match if you dont like what you see, boo them off at half time if you dont like the 1st half, not my style but its an emotional game. Boo them off at the end and scream verbals at the bench at full time if its bad, now that is something I've done on more than one occasion this season.But planning and organising demonstrations because the team is losing at the moment ? Do me a favour ! We had demonstrations a few years back because Doug wouldnt let go, and it was obvious to many of us that this was increasingly holding the club back. That was justified.In 1968 the club was rotten from top to bottom and on the verge of bankrupty from years of neglect by directors who were living in the past. Demonstrations then were not just necessary, they were imperative to the survival of the club. The club was saved and a new era began and we avoided relegation that season. But the next season the team imploded and spectacularly went backwards on the pitch. Just as now, there was reports of player unrest and fall outs with the manager. Just put the name Docherty instead of Houllier, think Mike Ferguson, Dick Edwards, Barry Hole instead of Ireland, Collins, Dunne. Nobody talked of demonstrating, even though we finished up in the 3rd division. Because we knew the basics of the club itself were right.So to the attention seeking big mouths who seem to be almost revelling in each defeat as they plan protest and revolution, I say shut up. Shut up because you dont cheer in equal volume when we win as you boo when we lose, shut up because you never give credit where its due in equal measure with the criticism you dish out, but most of all shut up because I suspect you are mostly spoilt brats who have known nothing but the premier league and like many modern fans you have no patience and at the first hint of problems you start crying.how anyone can say the club isnt badly run after the release of the recent accounts is off their rocker frankly.88% of turnover gone on wages.Unprecedented debt and massive losseshas anyone ever really explained the sale of land last year either by RAL?A CEO way out of his depthDisastrous choice of managerThe above is not the fault of MON but those charged with running the finances of the club ie the board.On the playing sideA squad - the most expensive ever assembled by the club - 3 points from bottom of the worst EPL season in terms of quality I can rememberA squad most likely without any relegation clauses into their salariesA squad top heavy with players in which we will take a huge loss on if they are sold in the summerBest player leaving in summerThe most expensive manager ever brought in has been a disaster and the vast majority of players/supporters have no faith in him even keeping us up never mind chasing Europe.The only positives I can think is that the youth academy continues to produce talent capable of playing in the EPL and also that we have a great training ground. No point burying our heads in the ground. The club is in big trouble and relegation for the clubs finances would be disastrous. Every other club whose new manager presided over such a shambles would also be up in arms.
I am all for free speech and people being entitled to their opinions, but anybody in favour of organised protests or demonstrations because of our present predicament is a complete and utter idiot, totally wrong in their actions and themselves show a total lack of understanding of the history of Aston Villa.We have players underperforming and a manager who on the present evidence is not doing an effective job so our team are losing games. Yes thats horrible and I hate it, but the club itself is not disorganised or badly run. The team on the pitch may be rudderless right now, but the club itself is not.Boo and moan during the match if you dont like what you see, boo them off at half time if you dont like the 1st half, not my style but its an emotional game. Boo them off at the end and scream verbals at the bench at full time if its bad, now that is something I've done on more than one occasion this season.But planning and organising demonstrations because the team is losing at the moment ? Do me a favour ! We had demonstrations a few years back because Doug wouldnt let go, and it was obvious to many of us that this was increasingly holding the club back. That was justified.In 1968 the club was rotten from top to bottom and on the verge of bankrupty from years of neglect by directors who were living in the past. Demonstrations then were not just necessary, they were imperative to the survival of the club. The club was saved and a new era began and we avoided relegation that season. But the next season the team imploded and spectacularly went backwards on the pitch. Just as now, there was reports of player unrest and fall outs with the manager. Just put the name Docherty instead of Houllier, think Mike Ferguson, Dick Edwards, Barry Hole instead of Ireland, Collins, Dunne. Nobody talked of demonstrating, even though we finished up in the 3rd division. Because we knew the basics of the club itself were right.So to the attention seeking big mouths who seem to be almost revelling in each defeat as they plan protest and revolution, I say shut up. Shut up because you dont cheer in equal volume when we win as you boo when we lose, shut up because you never give credit where its due in equal measure with the criticism you dish out, but most of all shut up because I suspect you are mostly spoilt brats who have known nothing but the premier league and like many modern fans you have no patience and at the first hint of problems you start crying.
No villa fans want to see the club struggle Many think the time is now to change the manager If they plan a peaceful march to voice this opinion I don't see any issueOnly fans who choose to go will be thereFree country isn't it
Quote from: WikiVilla on March 25, 2011, 02:01:39 PMNo villa fans want to see the club struggle Many think the time is now to change the manager If they plan a peaceful march to voice this opinion I don't see any issueOnly fans who choose to go will be thereFree country isn't itIs that a poem?
Quote from: peter w on March 25, 2011, 02:10:57 PMQuote from: WikiVilla on March 25, 2011, 02:01:39 PMNo villa fans want to see the club struggle Many think the time is now to change the manager If they plan a peaceful march to voice this opinion I don't see any issueOnly fans who choose to go will be thereFree country isn't itIs that a poem? If it is it's bloody rubbish.
The thing is there are a number of clubs below us and, to the best of my knowledge, their fans aren't protesting or producing banners. As a consequence the media aren't focusing on them or stirring up trouble. Negativity will not help our club one iota, it will simply ramp up the pressure on the players. We need to lift the lads - some of them are very young - and get them playing with passion, with confidence and pride. Back them to the hilt.Get positive, get behind the club and let's focus on finishing the season as high up the table as possible. We can debate managers after the final ball has been kicked. There's nearly a quarter of the season left to play - let's climb that table.
Quote from: Billy Walker on March 25, 2011, 10:17:10 AMThe thing is there are a number of clubs below us and, to the best of my knowledge, their fans aren't protesting or producing banners. As a consequence the media aren't focusing on them or stirring up trouble. Negativity will not help our club one iota, it will simply ramp up the pressure on the players. We need to lift the lads - some of them are very young - and get them playing with passion, with confidence and pride. Back them to the hilt.Get positive, get behind the club and let's focus on finishing the season as high up the table as possible. We can debate managers after the final ball has been kicked. There's nearly a quarter of the season left to play - let's climb that table.This.Protest? Absolutely fucking pathetic.If we stamp our feet and moan it won't make any difference. They will not sack Houllier because of what we think. They don't need us to tell them it has been a bad season and that he has done a poor job. If they did they would be as spineless as they were stupid for not seeing it.I can only see protests having a negative effect and serving to make us look like a bunch of stupid childish arseholes.
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