Bolton Wanderers v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[TheTimVilla]

You won't fit in... ;o)

[olaftab]

Do you t'hink Cahill would have scored either of his goals if it had been Collins 'challenging' him rather than young Nathan Baker? Would Bent have missed the pen?

Play like that for the rest of the season, and we'll be fine (as long we get some centre-backs fit).

I agree, having seen it on MotD, Baker was at fault for Cahill's two goals and yes Collins/Cuellar would have done better. However not sure about Bent with pens being better than Young. Young had scored the last 4 and missed one. Statistically that's not bad. Bent's pen taking style is nerve wrecking and I have not checked but you he has missed a few.

[pauliewalnuts]

Do you t'hink Cahill would have scored either of his goals if it had been Collins 'challenging' him rather than young Nathan Baker? Would Bent have missed the pen?

I'm very surprised there has been so little "Sir Gary Cahill, who MON despotically trampled into the ground before casting away, he who will go on to play for AC Bigtime in Italy" style talk this evening.

Surprised and disappointed. I think we're all worn down by this season.

[pauliewalnuts]

Do you t'hink Cahill would have scored either of his goals if it had been Collins 'challenging' him rather than young Nathan Baker? Would Bent have missed the pen?

Play like that for the rest of the season, and we'll be fine (as long we get some centre-backs fit).

I agree, having seen it on MotD, Baker was at fault for Cahill's two goals and yes Collins/Cuellar would have done better. However not sure about Bent with pens being better than Young. Young had scored the last 4 and missed one. Statistically that's not bad. Bent's pen taking style is nerve wrecking and I have not checked but you he has missed a few.

We can whinge all we want about Young recently, but he's been pretty dependable from the penalty spot, so it seems very harsh to give him a hard time over that.

[bertlambshank]

Do you t'hink Cahill would have scored either of his goals if it had been Collins 'challenging' him rather than young Nathan Baker? Would Bent have missed the pen?

Play like that for the rest of the season, and we'll be fine (as long we get some centre-backs fit).

I agree, having seen it on MotD, Baker was at fault for Cahill's two goals and yes Collins/Cuellar would have done better. However not sure about Bent with pens being better than Young. Young had scored the last 4 and missed one. Statistically that's not bad. Bent's pen taking style is nerve wrecking and I have not checked but you he has missed a few.

We can whinge all we want about Young recently, but he's been pretty dependable from the penalty spot, so it seems very harsh to give him a hard time over that.

I trust him from 12 yards,but from outside the box he should just stop.I would love to know the last time he made the keeper do anything from a free kick.

[Tony]

Do you t'hink Cahill would have scored either of his goals if it had been Collins 'challenging' him rather than young Nathan Baker? Would Bent have missed the pen?

Yes and Yes, I don't know where this Darren Bent is a great penalty taker rumour has came from and we've been shite at defending corners all season.

[luke25]

Do you t'hink Cahill would have scored either of his goals if it had been Collins 'challenging' him rather than young Nathan Baker? Would Bent have missed the pen?

Play like that for the rest of the season, and we'll be fine (as long we get some centre-backs fit).

I agree, having seen it on MotD, Baker was at fault for Cahill's two goals and yes Collins/Cuellar would have done better. However not sure about Bent with pens being better than Young. Young had scored the last 4 and missed one. Statistically that's not bad. Bent's pen taking style is nerve wrecking and I have not checked but you he has missed a few.

We can whinge all we want about Young recently, but he's been pretty dependable from the penalty spot, so it seems very harsh to give him a hard time over that.

Apart from the one at Chelsea, Youngs penalties have all been poor and relying on the goalkeeper going the wrong way

[pauliewalnuts]

Do you t'hink Cahill would have scored either of his goals if it had been Collins 'challenging' him rather than young Nathan Baker? Would Bent have missed the pen?

Play like that for the rest of the season, and we'll be fine (as long we get some centre-backs fit).

I agree, having seen it on MotD, Baker was at fault for Cahill's two goals and yes Collins/Cuellar would have done better. However not sure about Bent with pens being better than Young. Young had scored the last 4 and missed one. Statistically that's not bad. Bent's pen taking style is nerve wrecking and I have not checked but you he has missed a few.

We can whinge all we want about Young recently, but he's been pretty dependable from the penalty spot, so it seems very harsh to give him a hard time over that.

Apart from the one at Chelsea, Youngs penalties have all been poor and relying on the goalkeeper going the wrong way

Who gives a shit if they go in?

And "rely on the keeper going the wrong way"? Isn't the the entire point - ie put the penalty where the keeper doesn't go?

[dave.woodhall]

it seems that most of the time nowadays if the keeper goes the right way he saves it.

[PeterWithesShin]

Even Sid missed the occasional penalty. It happens.
Didn't we miss about 7 in a row one season under JG? I seem to remember Hendrie, Merson and Dublin  all having a go and fluffing them.

[luke25]

Do you t'hink Cahill would have scored either of his goals if it had been Collins 'challenging' him rather than young Nathan Baker? Would Bent have missed the pen?

Play like that for the rest of the season, and we'll be fine (as long we get some centre-backs fit).

I agree, having seen it on MotD, Baker was at fault for Cahill's two goals and yes Collins/Cuellar would have done better. However not sure about Bent with pens being better than Young. Young had scored the last 4 and missed one. Statistically that's not bad. Bent's pen taking style is nerve wrecking and I have not checked but you he has missed a few.

We can whinge all we want about Young recently, but he's been pretty dependable from the penalty spot, so it seems very harsh to give him a hard time over that.

Apart from the one at Chelsea, Youngs penalties have all been poor and relying on the goalkeeper going the wrong way

Who gives a shit if they go in?

And "rely on the keeper going the wrong way"? Isn't the the entire point - ie put the penalty where the keeper doesn't go?

Its risky cus as soon as the keeper does guess the correct way, like today, then he'll save it cus of how poorly he takes them, I've never felt confident when he steps up, much prefered Milners approach of smashing them as far into the corners as possible, even if the keeper does guess the rite way they'll still probably go in

[Tony]

it seems that most of the time nowadays if the keeper goes the right way he saves it.

When I was a lad the keeper wasn't allowed to move before they were taken, today Jussi made a good save, I don't think he even came off his line but generally keepers are given the advantage on pens these days, it's wrong.

[luke25]

Even Sid missed the occasional penalty. It happens.
Didn't we miss about 7 in a row one season under JG? I seem to remember Hendrie, Merson and Dublin  all having a go and fluffing them.

We missed twice in the same game on a couple of occasions under Gregory

[pauliewalnuts]

Its risky cus as soon as the keeper does guess the correct way, like today, then he'll save it cus of how poorly he takes them, I've never felt confident when he steps up, much prefered Milners approach of smashing them as far into the corners as possible, even if the keeper does guess the rite way they'll still probably go in

How is that different from anyone else taking a penalty?

if the keeper guesses the right way, he's onto a bit of a winner in terms of saving it.

Young hits them pretty hard, too.

Dont get me wrong, I can think of things to criticise Ashley for. His free kicks are shite, he wears a snood, he goes to ground far too much, and I understand why opposition fans hate him. Then again, he has a spark that very few of our players have, gets people on their feet, scores some excellent goals, and always gives 100 percent.

There's plenty to criticise at the moment, but it strikes me there are a lot of things deserving of criticism before we get to Ashley Young.

[PaulWinch again]

His record at pens is good, inevitably eventually he will miss one. I don't think he deserves stick for it.