PS Mr Lerner

[WikiVilla]

just checked they had 27,276 vs Notts Cty

[Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle]

The title of this thread sounds like the title of a wartime music hall song.

I can't get the Fast Show's Arthur Atkinson out of my head now.

To the tune of Oh Mr Porter:

Dear Mr Lerner
What can we do?
We thought we were on a Wemberley charge
But now we’re in the poo.
We wanted have a cup run
Mais Monsieur Hou dit "non!"
Dear Mr Lerner what a ****** he am.

[Olneythelonely]

Maybe if the General's questions was still here

Has no one told you yet? Ha.

[UsualSuspect]

I understand walmley, I'm 45 but the game is so different now to when I was young, it's all about money now and the rich getting richer, the days of a forest winning the league straight from promotion are gone forever.

I fear that we will Only be chasing Europa league places for the foreseeable future and therefore winning a cup is our only realistic chance of a trophy- if we aren't going to try to do that then it's a bleak time indeed.

I'm 42 and I care less about football every day

The best we can look at achieving is a Cup run and/or qualifying for the Europa league.

At least in days gone by you knew that every few years or so you would have a crack at the title

[lordmcgrath5]

Blues "shouldn't" have beaten Arsenal.  If they'd played a weakened side they wouldn't have.  If you don't try, you don't deserve to win.

Yep, that's about the long and the short of it. How to take the momentum out of a side and piss players off who want to play. Seen it before with Kevin MacDonald and MON, and it doesn't appear to effing work very well for us, does it? Will Houllier learn now?

[PeterWithesShin]

To me last night's crowd was just as symbolic of modrn football as the team selection. A club who haven't won a trophy for 35 years, living in the shadow of the most successful English club of all time, Wembley within touching distance and 23,000 of their supporters bothered to turn up.

Isn't that about what we got in total including a full North Upper and Lower of Citeh fans when we played them at home a few years ago in the 5th round when Micah Richards scored that sodding header?

They also have something like 5 home games in a row, in the current financial climate is it surprising?

[dave.woodhall]

To me last night's crowd was just as symbolic of modrn football as the team selection. A club who haven't won a trophy for 35 years, living in the shadow of the most successful English club of all time, Wembley within touching distance and 23,000 of their supporters bothered to turn up.

Isn't that about what we got in total including a full North Upper and Lower of Citeh fans when we played them at home a few years ago in the 5th round when Micah Richards scored that sodding header?

They also have something like 5 home games in a row, in the current financial climate is it surprising?

I don't know and I don't particularly care. It shows the low regard they hold for the FA Cup. 

[Rip Van We Go Again]

I lay the blame for all this firmly at the feet of Paul Faulkner and Margaret Thatcher.

[Legion]

Maybe if the General's questions was still here I could ask him to pursue the local fans more vigorously as they may be the new generation of fans that the club need. Only understand the Premier league and nothing else as the long-sdtanding fans will start to disappear again.

It is. We have a whole section dedicated to it.

[PeterWithesShin]

To me last night's crowd was just as symbolic of modrn football as the team selection. A club who haven't won a trophy for 35 years, living in the shadow of the most successful English club of all time, Wembley within touching distance and 23,000 of their supporters bothered to turn up.

Isn't that about what we got in total including a full North Upper and Lower of Citeh fans when we played them at home a few years ago in the 5th round when Micah Richards scored that sodding header?

They also have something like 5 home games in a row, in the current financial climate is it surprising?

I don't know and I don't particularly care. It shows the low regard they hold for the FA Cup. 

Or maybe a lot of them just couldn't afford it Dave. Had it been at VP last night I almost certainly wouldn't have been there for one simple reason, I wouldn't have been able to afford it, even at say £20 a ticket. I'm sure I wouldn't have been the only one in that situation. It doesn't mean I have low regard for the FA Cup, just that I have to prioritise sometimes.

Sky and modern football have devalued the domestic cups, but the current climate for many does dictate how many games you can go to.

[Chris Smith]

There is a lot of over emotional stuff on this thread from people who quite frankly are old enough to know better. However, I wanted to highlight this as it is just pain wrong;

Mistake by Clark?? Goal was down to the players looking like they didnt know what way they were supposed to be defeneding the corner, which was brought about by 8 changes and the team/squad not prepared enough for such changes.

The changes were not responsible for that goal. It was the sort we've been conceding all season and was symptomatic of how things have gone for us with it bouncing off Clark's arm.

As I said last night I can understand why he did what he did even if I think he made a couple of changes too many. What does bemuse me though is the people who have been calling out for many of those who played last night to be given a chance now wailing like jilted brides when they actually get given a run out.

Relegation is unthinkable and, however much we might not like it, staying in the league is always going to take precedence. Our form is too fragile and our position too precarious for us to take anything for granted and you can bet that if Spurs or Arsenal were in a similar position they'd be making similar decisions, hard headed businessmen do not share our romantic ideas.

If I though we had a realistic chance of winning the cup then I suppose that I'd have been more angry, but I've seen us play his season and know that we are far too frail defensively to have much hope and I'm too old to think of a day out at Wembley as anything more than a ridiculously expensive waste unless you win the fucker. Of course we might always have fluked it, nothing is ever certain, but I wasn't expecting it

[AV82EC]

The title of this thread sounds like the title of a wartime music hall song.

I can't get the Fast Show's Arthur Atkinson out of my head now.

To the tune of Oh Mr Porter:

Dear Mr Lerner
What can we do?
We thought we were on a Wemberley charge
But now we’re in the poo.
We wanted have a cup run
Mais Monsieur Hou dit "non!"
Dear Mr Lerner what a c*** he am.

I prefer Glenns efforts.

[dave.woodhall]

Or maybe a lot of them just couldn't afford it Dave. Had it been at VP last night I almost certainly wouldn't have been there for one simple reason, I wouldn't have been able to afford it, even at say £20 a ticket. I'm sure I wouldn't have been the only one in that situation. It doesn't mean I have low regard for the FA Cup, just that I have to prioritise sometimes.

Sky and modern football have devalued the domestic cups, but the current climate for many does dictate how many games you can go to.

That's maybe, but they will have full houses for their league games which are twice the price of last night. City, incidentally, always have low crowds for cup ties. I don't know their pricing structure but they alway seem to get around 15k or less for matches where we get mid-20s.

[martyn ellis]

From the Guardian sportblog just now. Seems to about sum up what most of us have been trying to say:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2011/mar/03/football-should-be-about-glory

[London Villan]

They held in enough regard to put a decent team out though.