0% villa- Rooney escapes any ban!

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Ferguson said 'It was nothing'
So quite clearly, that is end of the matter.

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

I havent even seen the incident, so with all the talk I thought I would check for myself.
At this moment in time, its been taken down from YouTube.

This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by FA Premier League.
Sorry about that.   

Copyright my arse !

[mal]

Mal is right, the Wigan player clearly moves to try to block Rooney. However, I still believe that Rooney's reaction is violent conduct, shoving an elbow in the other bloke's face is not the only possible reaction, he could just as easily have run round him.

It's very harsh to call it violent conduct, which has to be premeditated. Rooney doesn't hit him he raises his arm/shoulder protectively and jumps through the block. That is not violent conduct, it's a reaction. McCarthy however has no such excuse. He made no attempt to play the ball and strikes an opponent (he makes first contact) where are the howls of protest for him to receive  a retrospective 3 match ban?
Stop reading the papers or listening to the sofa and think for yourselves

[eastie]

Absolute rubbish mal- you are on a wind up surely?

[mal]

Absolute rubbish mal- you are on a wind up surely?

Watch the video. Ask yourself whether McCarthy looks to see where Rooney is and then puts his arm out before deliberately blocking him. If this is so, and there is agreement on this forum that this is an accurate description of events, then McCarthy commits the first offence and is guilty of violent conduct.

[eastie]

At worst mcarthy commits obstruction , Rooney commits violent conduct - seen it many times , you are talking rubbish.

As regards others  in agreement with your version of events I've read the thread and find nobody who agrees with your version of rooneys action.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Only on H & V could somebody defend what he did.

This site is truly unique.

[Dave Cooper please]

Mal, I have now watched it several times, it is not a reflexive action from Rooney, that would have been to push the Wigan player away or attempt to sidestep around him, he leaps into the air and plants an elbow in his head, no one reflexively reacts like that.

For me the correct decision would have been a red card for Rooney and a free-kick to Man Utd for the initial obstruction.

[hartman_1982]

McCarthy commits obstruction, Rooney commits violent conduct. It really is that simple!

[eastie]

More to the point fletch - mal actually seems to believe what he's saying , a wind up I could understand but he actually thinks we are all wrong and he's right!

Your not mal clattenburg by any chance are you?

[peter w]

Absolutely crazy. Surely there must be some recourse for Wigan to be able to appeal. A clear elbow. If Clattenburg seriously thinks he called it correctly then he should come under close inspection as he clearly did not see it. hopefully there will be some outcry that will invoke clause something subsection whatever of the FIFa referees charter that allows them to go back and make the right decision.

[Chris Smith]

More to the point fletch - mal actually seems to believe what he's saying , a wind up I could understand but he actually thinks we are all wrong and he's right!

Your not mal clattenburg by any chance are you?

Why does it bother you so much that he sees it differently to you?

[eastie]

Come on chris, we all have differing opinions on various issues but this is pretty much as clear cut as anything gets- I find it quite staggering anyone could see the Rooney incident like that and claim mcarthy was guilty of violent conduct but not Rooney?

[peter w]

Absolute rubbish mal- you are on a wind up surely?

Watch the video. Ask yourself whether McCarthy looks to see where Rooney is and then puts his arm out before deliberately blocking him. If this is so, and there is agreement on this forum that this is an accurate description of events, then McCarthy commits the first offence and is guilty of violent conduct.

Yes, Mccarthy moves in his way to attempt to block a clear run towards the ball. Rooney decides against running around him but puts him into his face. Rooney didn't instinctively put his arm up to protect himself but used his momentum to shift the obstruction. That is violent conduct. What next? Players that block players path to the ball as it goes over the byline are due a smack in the jaw because they have hindered another players progress? As you said, think about it for yourself.

[mal]

Only on H & V could somebody defend what he did.

This site is truly unique.

With all due respect yuor inference is that he did something that needs defending and it's that that I am disputing. Once the pundits have had their say with their microscopes on full beam everyone else just falls into step. I dislike Rooney intensely, but if you want to quibble about his on the pitch behaviour I'd rather something was done about his foul mothed tirades directed at the officials which happen several times EVERY game he plays. In the sunday leagues up and down the country he'd be off before half time every week.  The point  is that this is a nothing incident the like of which will probably happen in all 10 premiership games next weekend and none will be pored over like this.