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Offline villa `cross the mersey

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Re: Gabby Agbonlahor
« Reply #495 on: February 20, 2020, 06:46:22 PM »
You said you don't understand my logic. I'm asking what part of "Garde was shite" are you struggling with, the implication being I'll happily elaborate further as to why Garde was shite.

I have no idea what else you're on about or why you'd be offended.

You know exactly what I am talking about ……..
The reference to " I don't understand your logic" was a direct quote from you in the "Dean Smith Confirmed thread" and had no bearing on the Remi Garde comments - I was " getting back at ya" in jest, hence the smiley face.

 

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Re: Gabby Agbonlahor
« Reply #496 on: February 20, 2020, 06:49:44 PM »
I can't say I'm too fussed about listening to what Gabby has to say, what happened has been and gone. Got a big game on Saturday and a Cup Final next week.

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Re: Gabby Agbonlahor
« Reply #497 on: February 20, 2020, 06:56:16 PM »
You said you don't understand my logic. I'm asking what part of "Garde was shite" are you struggling with, the implication being I'll happily elaborate further as to why Garde was shite.

I have no idea what else you're on about or why you'd be offended.

You know exactly what I am talking about ……..
The reference to " I don't understand your logic" was a direct quote from you in the "Dean Smith Confirmed thread" and had no bearing on the Remi Garde comments - I was " getting back at ya" in jest, hence the smiley face.

 

I know it was a reference to what I'd said the other day. Your comment that because we lost to Bournemouth means we can't beat Arsenal made no sense, so I stated that I didn't understand your logic.

What precisely you're struggling to grasp about Garde being shit I don't know. Hence I asked.

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Re: Gabby Agbonlahor
« Reply #498 on: February 20, 2020, 08:12:38 PM »
My logic is that if we can't beat a poor team like Bournemouth I fail to see how we will " batter" the likes of an improving arsenal or Man Utd side - given that we've not done that for over 25 years - indeed in all my time watching Villa I can't recall us battering either of those clubs - Perhaps the League Cup Final (Big Ron's side) being an exception - Arsenal and Man Utd always seem to do well at Villa Park
In respect of Garde - I agree he didn't succeed in any sense at the Villa, however he wasn't dealt a very good hand by the owner at that time - certainly didn't receive the type of backing Smith has enjoyed - to conclude the only thing I am struggling with right now is whether I travel down to Wembley on the 1st in the hope of picking up a ticket for the final or watching it in a Merseyside pub with other "Mersey Villans"
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Re: Gabby Agbonlahor
« Reply #499 on: February 20, 2020, 09:28:09 PM »
I think Arsenal are poor. They've won the same games as us. It's also the reason that we beat Leicester and lose to Bournemouth; welcome to the inconsistent world of a naive and inexperienced side.

The gap has not been smaller between us and Man United on the pitch since 1992/93. It doesn't mean we will win, but I'm not going to write any if those games off and think we have the quality and the ability to get a positive result. I'm not doubting our propensity to do something daft.

Garde gets no more a free pass than any of the other clowns at the club during that time. The bizarre mythologising of him is misplaced. He was crap, he was dealt a bad hand and gave up, which is unforgivable for me. You die on your feet and only on your arse if you're put there. He sat down willingly, the coward.

He isn't the only villain of that time or even close to the worst- the giant man baby Lerner shoulders that title.


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Re: Gabby Agbonlahor
« Reply #500 on: February 20, 2020, 09:32:58 PM »
I think Arsenal are poor. They've won the same games as us. It's also the reason that we beat Leicester and lose to Bournemouth; welcome to the inconsistent world of a naive and inexperienced side.

The gap has not been smaller between us and Man United on the pitch since 1992/93. It doesn't mean we will win, but I'm not going to write any if those games off and think we have the quality and the ability to get a positive result. I'm not doubting our propensity to do something daft.

Garde gets no more a free pass than any of the other clowns at the club during that time. The bizarre mythologising of him is misplaced. He was crap, he was dealt a bad hand and gave up, which is unforgivable for me. You die on your feet and only on your arse if you're put there. He sat down willingly, the coward.

He isn't the only villain of that time or even close to the worst- the giant man baby Lerner shoulders that title.



I agree.  Garde was destined to fail before he was appointed, but even allowing for that, he was an absolute disaster.

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Re: Gabby Agbonlahor
« Reply #501 on: February 20, 2020, 09:35:00 PM »
Garde was dealt quite a good hand at his next club, Montreal Impact, but failed there as well.

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Re: Gabby Agbonlahor
« Reply #502 on: February 20, 2020, 09:39:48 PM »
Lerner was a absolute cretin and almost destroyed the club

No shit?

Lerner remains the biggest villain of them all.

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Re: Gabby Agbonlahor
« Reply #503 on: February 20, 2020, 09:56:38 PM »
FWIW  McLeish, Houllier and Garde are all successful managers at the highest level but not with us.

Wasn't Garde the first manager in about 10 years not to win the french league with Lyon or have I got that wrong? Houllier was decent but we just got him years too late, similar to signing likes of Ginola and indeed Drinkwater years past their prime.

He actually played quite well for McLeish for first half of the season but then totally lost form in the second half of that season.

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Re: Gabby Agbonlahor
« Reply #504 on: February 20, 2020, 10:02:35 PM »
Garde was dealt quite a good hand at his next club, Montreal Impact, but failed there as well.

Whether he was ever going to be good or not (and I agree it wasn't exactly a bed of roses to come into) I am surprised he hasn't just gone back to manage in France if his reputation at Lyon was that high. Surely a Marseille or Monaco would've been in for him like a shot given Andre Vilas Boas is doing pretty well at Marseille currently.

If Lyon were in bad financial shape when he was manager then that's another mitigating factor but last time I looked they still have the same president (Aulas) who's been in charge there for decades and they were spending 20m on Lille players this summer.

Perhaps Garde is just bad in his timing and he finally got the hint about his MLS stint.