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Offline Villan For Life

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Re: Cricket World Cup 2011
« Reply #885 on: April 02, 2011, 10:09:02 PM »
Anyone know what went on at the toss? Looked a bit iffy to me.

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« Reply #886 on: April 03, 2011, 10:21:55 AM »
I heard Sangakkara saying that he didn't know which side was which, but the TV was saying they couldn't hear his call.

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Re: Cricket World Cup 2011
« Reply #887 on: April 03, 2011, 11:30:32 AM »
I heard Sangakkara saying that he didn't know which side was which, but the TV was saying they couldn't hear his call.

He seemed to cope alright in all of the other games

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Re: Cricket World Cup 2011
« Reply #888 on: April 03, 2011, 12:40:36 PM »
I think it was a different designed coin.

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« Reply #889 on: April 03, 2011, 12:44:03 PM »
Mumbai:  The World Cup final ran into its first controversy before the first ball was bowled. The coin had to be tossed twice after the match referee Jeff Crowe said he had not heard Sri Lanka Kumara Sangakkara's call the first time. The Wankhede Stadium was not yet filled to its 33,000 capacity, and the noise was yet to reach its peak. Commentator Ravi Shastri, who was hosting the toss, said it had fallen heads the first time. There were then a few moments of confusion as Crowe said he had not heard the call and so the toss that had been carried out was null and void. The toss then had to be carried out a second time, and when MS Dhoni threw up the coin again, Sangakkara called 'heads' and the coin fell Sri Lanka's way.

Replays of the toss indicate decisively that Sangakkara called heads the first time as well, and the call is audible to the television producers. Sangakkara's head was down when he called heads. In the noise, Dhoni mis-heard it as a tails call, which was why he turned towards Shastri saying, "We'll bat". However neither Shastri nor Crowe had heard Sangakkara's call, Crowe due to the noise and Shastri because he was looking up at the coin. When Shastri looked across to Crowe, the referee said, "I didn't hear it." There was then a brief conversation and it was decided the toss had to be held again.

Crowe was also the match referee at the 2007 World Cup final when the teams went off for bad light but were to forced to return and play out the remaining overs in darkness. He had overseen a mistake by the officials that led to the game resuming in near total darkness. The officials had forgotten that, as 20 overs had been bowled in the second innings, a result could be declared. Crowe, when pressed at a post-match news conference, blamed that error on now retired South African umpire Rudi Koertzen, who was the television replay official for that match.


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It was the Sky commentators who mentioned something about not knowing what was heads or tails.

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Re: Cricket World Cup 2011
« Reply #890 on: April 03, 2011, 08:19:26 PM »
Tossing Controversy at the Wankhede Stadium.....brilliant

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Re: Cricket World Cup 2011
« Reply #891 on: April 03, 2011, 08:21:04 PM »
The two teams in the final were the two best teams, much like the twenty20 World Cup. So even though the tournament dragged out, it did produce the right final.

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Re: Cricket World Cup 2011
« Reply #892 on: April 04, 2011, 08:40:53 PM »
World Cup 2015 cut to ten teams, just the test nations. Not very good for the development of the game. If assiociate nations play crap then everyone says 'it's a waste of time having them in'. If they do well, like Ireland have done at the last two competitions, they say "don't knock out the big nations, we'll lose money!". So they can't win either way.

16 teams in 4 groups of 4 is the way forward. If the big teams get knocked out, tough.

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Re: Cricket World Cup 2011
« Reply #893 on: April 05, 2011, 02:06:32 AM »
World Cup 2015 cut to ten teams, just the test nations. Not very good for the development of the game. If assiociate nations play crap then everyone says 'it's a waste of time having them in'. If they do well, like Ireland have done at the last two competitions, they say "don't knock out the big nations, we'll lose money!". So they can't win either way.

16 teams in 4 groups of 4 is the way forward. If the big teams get knocked out, tough.

Another great decision by the old farts in charge of sport.

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« Reply #894 on: April 05, 2011, 10:06:25 AM »
Like you say, 16 teams in groups of 4 would be the way to go. Play each team once and then top 2 qualify for the quarter finals.

That way you have the 10 test nations, plus the likes of Ireland, Kenya, Afghanistan (who I think will be a key cricketing nation in the coming years) etc get experience and helps the game expand.

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« Reply #895 on: April 05, 2011, 10:40:54 AM »
It's wrong on so many levels, not least of which is that it will stifle the development of Ireland and similar nations at one day level.

Ireland have produced some great players and with the right level of investment/development will easily match Bangladesh and Zimbabwe.

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« Reply #896 on: April 05, 2011, 10:47:25 AM »
I'd also like to see the ICC stop this criss-crossing of nations that goes on. Ok, we may have benefited with Morgan, but once you've played for one nation that should be it.

 


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