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Offline Dave P

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Re: Summer transfer rumours, speculation and out-and-out b*ll*cks.
« Reply #3645 on: June 12, 2011, 06:56:23 AM »
Some  chap on the radio earlier talking to Ian Danter said he is Roger Johnson's agent and the Club have been in touch with him and said they HAVE to sell him. So he is busy trying to find a buyer.

I know we don't have a manager in place but I think PF should at least get him in...can't go wrong in my opinion.


Agreed. Forgetting who they play for, him and Foster are very good players and we can do a lot worse.

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Re: Summer transfer rumours, speculation and out-and-out b*ll*cks.
« Reply #3646 on: June 12, 2011, 07:57:40 AM »
Scott Dann seems the better player out of the 2 for me.
« Last Edit: June 12, 2011, 08:25:52 AM by Cracker1234 »

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Re: Summer transfer rumours, speculation and out-and-out b*ll*cks.
« Reply #3647 on: June 12, 2011, 08:24:21 AM »
I think Dann might be going to Liverpool.

I rate Johnson very highly too. Certainly would prefer him to both Dunne and Collins. Would be great if we could sign Johnson.

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Re: Summer transfer rumours, speculation and out-and-out b*ll*cks.
« Reply #3648 on: June 12, 2011, 08:26:45 AM »
Yeah I heard Dann may be on his way to Liverpool, he's a scouser anyway so it wouldn't shock me if he picked them over any other club.

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Re: Summer transfer rumours, speculation and out-and-out b*ll*cks.
« Reply #3649 on: June 12, 2011, 11:01:53 AM »
I think Dann will go to Liverpool in January

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Re: Summer transfer rumours, speculation and out-and-out b*ll*cks.
« Reply #3650 on: June 12, 2011, 02:32:15 PM »
Apparently Johnson looked lost for the last part of the season without Dann holding the partnership together.

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Re: Summer transfer rumours, speculation and out-and-out b*ll*cks.
« Reply #3651 on: June 12, 2011, 05:27:01 PM »
Yeah I heard Dann may be on his way to Liverpool, he's a scouser anyway so it wouldn't shock me if he picked them over any other club.
Dann seems to be down the list of targets though.

Jones, Cahill, Sakho, Lovren are/were all preferable but maybe not obtainable.

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Re: Summer transfer rumours, speculation and out-and-out b*ll*cks.
« Reply #3652 on: June 12, 2011, 09:55:58 PM »
Yeah I heard Dann may be on his way to Liverpool, he's a scouser anyway so it wouldn't shock me if he picked them over any other club.
Dann seems to be down the list of targets though.

Jones, Cahill, Sakho, Lovren are/were all preferable but maybe not obtainable.

I would be looking for midfielders Redman, having seen Henderson play tonight for the under 21s. Goodness me, wherever did anyone get the idea he is worth £16m? So so ordinary...

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Re: Summer transfer rumours, speculation and out-and-out b*ll*cks.
« Reply #3653 on: June 12, 2011, 10:28:49 PM »
Yeah I heard Dann may be on his way to Liverpool, he's a scouser anyway so it wouldn't shock me if he picked them over any other club.
Dann seems to be down the list of targets though.

Jones, Cahill, Sakho, Lovren are/were all preferable but maybe not obtainable.

I would be looking for midfielders Redman, having seen Henderson play tonight for the under 21s. Goodness me, wherever did anyone get the idea he is worth £16m? So so ordinary...
I guess we'll see. I didn't think Milner was worth anything like £12m when you signed him either.

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Re: Summer transfer rumours, speculation and out-and-out b*ll*cks.
« Reply #3654 on: June 12, 2011, 10:42:07 PM »
I would be looking for midfielders Redman, having seen Henderson play tonight for the under 21s. Goodness me, wherever did anyone get the idea he is worth £16m? So so ordinary...

Was thinking exactly the same. It's hard to judge him on tonights game as he was anonymous throughout.

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Re: Summer transfer rumours, speculation and out-and-out b*ll*cks.
« Reply #3655 on: June 12, 2011, 11:01:34 PM »
Yeah I heard Dann may be on his way to Liverpool, he's a scouser anyway so it wouldn't shock me if he picked them over any other club.
Dann seems to be down the list of targets though.

Jones, Cahill, Sakho, Lovren are/were all preferable but maybe not obtainable.

I would be looking for midfielders Redman, having seen Henderson play tonight for the under 21s. Goodness me, wherever did anyone get the idea he is worth £16m? So so ordinary...
I guess we'll see. I didn't think Milner was worth anything like £12m when you signed him either.

Milner had shown far more by the stage we signed him Redman to justify £12m and not just at the Villa so I can't agree with you one bit there. Though I would agree with anyone who said he wasn't then worth the £24m we got for him

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Re: Summer transfer rumours, speculation and out-and-out b*ll*cks.
« Reply #3656 on: June 12, 2011, 11:32:00 PM »
Yeah I heard Dann may be on his way to Liverpool, he's a scouser anyway so it wouldn't shock me if he picked them over any other club.
Dann seems to be down the list of targets though.

Jones, Cahill, Sakho, Lovren are/were all preferable but maybe not obtainable.

I would be looking for midfielders Redman, having seen Henderson play tonight for the under 21s. Goodness me, wherever did anyone get the idea he is worth £16m? So so ordinary...
I guess we'll see. I didn't think Milner was worth anything like £12m when you signed him either.

Milner had shown far more by the stage we signed him Redman to justify £12m and not just at the Villa so I can't agree with you one bit there. Though I would agree with anyone who said he wasn't then worth the £24m we got for him
The way I see it, Milner was worth around £16-20m when you sold him. You got more because he wasn't for sale and City paid a premium to get their man.

Liverpool's gamble is that Henderson will become as important and influential for us as Milner was for Villa (i.e. worth £16-20m). So we may never be able to say we got a bargain but I reckon the chances of getting an important and influential midfielder are quite high. The reason being that under Kenny, Liverpool will play to his strengths. i.e. short-passing and moving into space.

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Re: Summer transfer rumours, speculation and out-and-out b*ll*cks.
« Reply #3657 on: June 13, 2011, 01:19:48 AM »
What does everybody think of this Phil Jones transfer? It is a bit suspect. It went from 'clause activated' status to 'player having medical' status within no time at all and all while Ferguson was holidaying in France.

Here's my theory:

  • Jones had clearly been tapped up. He was just waiting for the call. Nothing unusual about that.
  • Blackburn, aware they'd set the buy-out clause too low decide not to comply. Why should they? The Mancs' weren't.
  • The only evidence Blackburn have of an illegal approach is the Mancs' apparent knowledge of Jones' contract clause.
  • In order to avoid making an allegation they may not be able to prove, Blackburn invent a different interpretation of the buy-out clause instead and demand more money.
  • The Mancs have 3 choices:
    • Dispute Blackburn's interpretation of the clause, force the deal through and risk being reported.
    • Dispute Blackburn's interpretation of the clause, do the deal and settle out of court.
    • Accept Blackburn's interpretation of the clause and do the deal for a higher fee.
    [li]The most likely option to me seems like 2. The reported higher bids from Liverpool and Arsenal give Blackburn an incentive to litigate. They can prove they could have sold Jones for a higher fee than the buyout clause.

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Re: Summer transfer rumours, speculation and out-and-out b*ll*cks.
« Reply #3658 on: June 13, 2011, 07:09:17 AM »
United lawyers seem confident it will go through at 16 million. If there is a clause, Blackburn are screwed.

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Re: Summer transfer rumours, speculation and out-and-out b*ll*cks.
« Reply #3659 on: June 13, 2011, 07:38:48 AM »
So if a football club want to buy a player how can they find out if there is a clause in the contract without reading their contract ? I mean is the parasite (agent) allow to inform the other club about the clause.

 


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