Would relegation be that bad?

[Dave Cooper please]

Anybody who thinks 'it wouldn't be all that bad' is deranged.

I am therefore perfectly happy to be deranged.

We will still be Villa fans won't we? You know, fans of the greatest club in the World, support them through thick and thin and all that? So what if the football isn't great, it ain't been that fucking good recently anyway.
We won't go into financial meltdown, we will have a team good enough to compete in The Championship, and if we don't bounce straight back...then so fucking what? Just because we think we have some sort of God given right to be a Premiership club it don't make it so. IF we go down, just keep on supporting, and for fucks sake try to enjoy it.

[john e]

Anybody who thinks 'it wouldn't be all that bad' is deranged.

I am therefore perfectly happy to be deranged.

We will still be Villa fans won't we? You know, fans of the greatest club in the World, support them through thick and thin and all that? So what if the football isn't great, it ain't been that fucking good recently anyway.
We won't go into financial meltdown, we will have a team good enough to compete in The Championship, and if we don't bounce straight back...then so fucking what? Just because we think we have some sort of God given right to be a Premiership club it don't make it so. IF we go down, just keep on supporting, and for fucks sake try to enjoy it.

Dave Cooper is probably deranged,
 but he's also correct on this one

[dave.woodhall]

One particularly good point in there is at the heart of why there's so much current angst. It's as though we think we have the divine right to always be in the top six and should never, ever struggle so when we go through a sticky patch it's like the world is coming to an end.

[KevinGage]

Relegation would be bad, of course it would, but it won't be the complete meltdown into financial and footballing oblivion some of you are predicting!

Football wise, I would back our yoofs plus a couple of old heads to steady the ship to beat any club in The Championship, and if we go down that is what the team would be based around. A core of Clark, Lichaj, Bannan, Gabby, Delfounz, Albrighton, Weimann and Delph would be great to watch and would probably be good enough for promotion.

Finance wise, Lerner isn't going to bail out on us, and his financial clout plus the parachute payments would see us as comparatively rather rich in division two rather than also-rans in The Premiership.

Only slight problem with that lower division utopia is that it's unlikely even the young kids will stick around.  The best ones anyroad. Albrighton, Clark and possibly Delph will attract offers from other Prem sides and might not see us as the best bet to progress their careers.  Though I'm sure the likes of Hogg, Lichaj, Lowry and co will still be around if we want them.

[Nigel Macdougall]

It would be bad for all the people who rely on Sky and internet streams to actually watch games,yet no doubt ,will continue to come on here and say how good or poorly we have performed and how the club should be run!

[ROBBO]

Anyone who believes relegation is some sort of a cleansing agent that will see us rise from the ashes reborn and renewed obviously havn't been with Villa on that trip before. The Championship is as hard to get out of as it is to get in the top four of the prem, it is dog eat dog in a division of hackers, young hpefulls and hasbeens, and of course there is always the threat of relegation to division one or the third as we used to call it. I despair that we have supporters who wouldn't see this as anything but a mitigating disaster, i would say to them pick the nearest championship side and go and watch them home and away for a few weeks see what your future would really be like.

[Simba]

Hooky; thanks. A question worth talking about.

The answer is YES. In the modern - SKY, Prem crap. Very much yes. Aston Villa cannot afford to be without that income.

We stay up or we go down for some years and suffer a long term financial, maybe ten year hiatus as a very poor relation to our real rivals. Spurs et al. It could even break us. Especially given the contracts that MON has agreed.

Please do not belittle our position. The whole club is at stake.


Sky falling in ? Joke? We are in a very serious situation. Non of our financial projections allowed for relegation.

[Simba]

Anyone who believes relegation is some sort of a cleansing agent that will see us rise from the ashes reborn and renewed obviously havn't been with Villa on that trip before. The Championship is as hard to get out of as it is to get in the top four of the prem, it is dog eat dog in a division of hackers, young hpefulls and hasbeens, and of course there is always the threat of relegation to division one or the third as we used to call it. I despair that we have supporters who wouldn't see this as anything but a mitigating disaster, i would say to them pick the nearest championship side and go and watch them home and away for a few weeks see what your future would really be like.

What he said.

[dave.woodhall]

Hooky; thanks. A question worth talking about.

The answer is YES. In the modern - SKY, Prem crap. Very much yes. Aston Villa cannot afford to be without that income.

We stay up or we go down for some years and suffer a long term financial, maybe ten year hiatus as a very poor relation to our real rivals. Spurs et al. It could even break us. Especially given the contracts that MON has agreed.

Please do not belittle our position. The whole club is at stake.


Sky falling in ? Joke? We are in a very serious situation. Non of our financial projections allowed for relegation.

I would be very surprised if there isn't a nightmare scenario to cover just that. Going down would be a horrible, horrible thing but it would not jeopardise the club's existence.

[olaftab]

Relegation would be bad. Not for the fact we will drop out of PL for a season but  the impact it will have on development of our young players.  To get relegated this season we have to perform only slightly below  the effort so far. This will mean some dreadful results and a team playing with no confidence no cohesion. This is not a good environment for  youngster to gain the confidence they will need to bloom.  Kids flourish in successful teams and flounder in bad teams. 
So for the sake of our future we need to get away from drop zone as soon as possible.

[Risso]

We don't have to perform below our current level to get relegated aftab, just maintaining it will see us down.

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

Hooky; thanks. A question worth talking about.

The answer is YES. In the modern - SKY, Prem crap. Very much yes. Aston Villa cannot afford to be without that income.

We stay up or we go down for some years and suffer a long term financial, maybe ten year hiatus as a very poor relation to our real rivals. Spurs et al. It could even break us. Especially given the contracts that MON has agreed.

Please do not belittle our position. The whole club is at stake.


Sky falling in ? Joke? We are in a very serious situation. Non of our financial projections allowed for relegation.

A whole boardroom of incompetents slowly strangling the club were unable to sink us in the 1960s, although we went pretty close. I am sure if one silly little relegation did occur, it wouldnt remotely compare with the events then. 

[Mac]

I don't think the "strong chairman" thing is true any more.  I think he's weak, and has effectively given up on turning us into a Premier League club that can challenge domestically and in Europe.  5 years on and we're in a worse position than when he arrived.  At least Doug went out having given it one last shot.

Really?  Has anyone pointed out that work has stopped on the training ground and we had to sell the serpentine car park to stay solvent?

[Pete3206]

When Blues, Wolves and Albion went down in recent years, it was hardly the fall of Pompeii.

[KevinGage]

One particularly good point in there is at the heart of why there's so much current angst. It's as though we think we have the divine right to always be in the top six and should never, ever struggle so when we go through a sticky patch it's like the world is coming to an end.

Do we have a divine right to it? No.

But I think I'd rather see us dropping out of contention due to other sides coming on leaps and bounds rather than sinking our own boat.