Current media comments towards us

[Edvard Remberg]

Very nicely put Mac.

[hawkeye]

Well done Mac-spot on

[Brend'Watkins]

Well done Mac-spot on

Strange comment from you that when yesterday you were calling for Faulkner to be replaced.

[Mac]

Well done Mac-spot on

Strange comment from you that when yesterday you were calling for Faulkner to be replaced.

My argument was clearly persuasive.

[Chris Smith]

Good post Mac.

There's only one person at fault for the situation we find ourselves in and he's no longer with us.

It doesn't really matter who is to blame though, Bren.

It is how the club have dealt with it that is the issue. The way it has been handled has given the appearance of dithering.
How long do we give the club the get out of jail free card of blaming everything that happens on MON walking out?

From what Pelty is saying the club were happy to appoint GH under the conditions it wasn't to be an immediate appointment.  That was their decision which I don't see as dithering.  If you are going to appoint someone for the most crucial role in the club then I think the decision to do so should be given a lot of thought and time.  That's the way the club have gone about it. 

If there is any fault by the board it is that even having been given assurances by MON that he was staying to finish the job they should have had an inkling that he could at any time throw the towel in and with that in mind have a name or names primed to fill the void.  The week they players reported back to training MON didn't look like a man enthusiastic about the season ahead. That should have been apparent to the board.

As I said it might not be a fair criticism but that is how it is being seen by the wider world.

[Chris Smith]

Good post Mac.

There's only one person at fault for the situation we find ourselves in and he's no longer with us.

It doesn't really matter who is to blame though, Bren.

It is how the club have dealt with it that is the issue. The way it has been handled has given the appearance of dithering. As I said above, that might not be fair but it is how it is being perceived by the wider world and the lack of clear commuication has s only given that more credence.

How long do we give the club the get out of jail free card of blaming everything that happens on MON walking out?

Glad you read my post with an open mind Chris. 

I did and agreed with most of it. I was replying to Bren's comment. I don't think anyone would argue that MON walking out dropped us in it. My argument is that it doesn't really matter now, it's what happens from now on that is important.

There are people, not you or Bren, that don't seem to have been able to get beyond calling MON names and thereby excusing everything else that happens as his fault. I don't think that's a useful approach.

[cdward]

Just read that article, who cares what some yam yam writes about us. The thing that people need to remember when reading this rubbish, it is just one persons opinion. If a bloke in the pub said the same, it would be quickly dismissed, and you would move on to another subject, because some journo writes it we should take it seriously?
It is like Michael O Leary of Ryanair, he just comes out with shit so people are talking about his airline, we are now reading the local yam yam papers web site, really, who cares.
What did they used to say, todays newspapers are tomorrows chip papers

Swain is not a Yam Yam, but lets not worry about the chip on your shoulder shall we.


His article above, is pretty much bang on. If in your opinion it's not, well pray tell what you disagree with

Firstly, not sure how me calling someone a yam yam equates to a chip on my shoulder. If i am wrong and he indeed is not a yam yam, then i am mistaken, if in fact he is, then i am right.

Whilst i am not arguing the thrust of the article, there are a number of points i agree with, but some of the points he makes are rubbish in my opinion.

"while Villa are looking more and more like the new Blues. All gaffes and own goals.
Lerner needs to get a grip more quickly than his chosen manager has decided to.
Past evidence does not fill me with much hope he will do so".

I do not agree that GH has been treating the job with disregard.
I also do not agree with the view that Villa are in the hands of " hopelessly naive and ill equipped administrators".
If that is what you think of Randy and the General, so be it, you can carry on reading and agreeing with Swain, i wont, and that is my point, i don't have to agree with one journos opinion of something.

I don't know how i got sucked into this, i should have just said Fuck 'em (the yam yams).

The chip was there as far as I could see, "some yam yam journo" etc, like he has no right to comment, when if you read some of the posts above, you'll see that he is more than qualified.

If you actually READ what he says, he actually sums the last few weeks up to a tea. The Board have been great for this Club, but it doesn't mean that everything that they do is always right. Hence, we see a balanced article.

Just thought i couldn't let you away without a response.
It is obvious from your signature that it is you who has the chip on the shoulder about being called a yam yam. Because i never called you a yam yam, you obviously do have an issue, but that's your problem, deal with it.
I only called Swain a yam yam in relation to him being a journalist writing about a football club from Birmingham, when the article he is writing is not even in a Birmingham newspaper, it is in a "Black Country" paper.  i could have called him a Geordie, or Scouser or Cockney.
As it turns out he is a Cov' twat anyway!

[cheltenhamlion]

What a good thread this is.

[pauliewalnuts]

Stuart James with a pointless dig in the Guardian (which was also repeated by that prick Nursey in the Mirror).

Houllier was certainly in need of some help after a poor opening 45 minutes that did nothing to improve the subdued mood in a stadium that was less than half full, after only 18,753 turned up to witness Houllier's first game – lower than any crowd during Martin O'Neill's reign.

Apart from the pointlessness of this catty remark, worth remembering that last year, 23k against Cardiff, with 6k+ away fans, and the year before Leicester, with even more away fans.

Tonight, 5-600 away fans.

[stuart r]

There is a lot being written about Villa at the moment. Some of it is worth reading but most of it is just rubbish.

I wanted to say something about current press coverage of Villa because of a piece I just read. Did a search to see if the subject already exists and lo, the very same journalist that riled me was the topic of the last post here 2 and a half years ago.

Football journalists are enjoying Villa’s current plight as it gives them a chance to have a right good go. They write in a style that suggests concern for our situation but is actually just gloating. Comes with the territory of being a big club I suppose. They wouldn’t bother if it was Albion or Birmingham.

Stuart James is clearly enjoying himself. 'Crestfallen', 'disastrous', 'plumbed new depths', 'humiliation', 'shortcomings', 'depressing', 'misery' and 'turmoil' all in the first 5 lines!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/jan/23/aston-villa-new-low-bradford

Really poor tabloid style writing. I don't mind writing that is critical/poking fun but it has to be good or intelligent or something.

[Pat McMahon]

In my opinion, Stuart James is generally one of the more informed and balanced journalists when it comes to reporting on Aston Villa.

He wrote a report last Saturday that generally distilled most of what we have been saying on here for a national audience.

[john e]

by far the worst stuff i read about the Villa and the utter slagging they get is on here

not saying people cant post what they want, but you would go along way to see the club slagged of worse than on H+V (maybe VT, i havent looked)
 

[E I Adio]

In my opinion, Stuart James is generally one of the more informed and balanced journalists when it comes to reporting on Aston Villa.

He wrote a report last Saturday that generally distilled most of what we have been saying on here for a national audience.

I agree, particularly about last Saturday's piece. He's usually pretty well informed considering he works for a national title.

[saunders_heroes]

There is a lot being written about Villa at the moment. Some of it is worth reading but most of it is just rubbish.

I wanted to say something about current press coverage of Villa because of a piece I just read. Did a search to see if the subject already exists and lo, the very same journalist that riled me was the topic of the last post here 2 and a half years ago.

Football journalists are enjoying Villa’s current plight as it gives them a chance to have a right good go. They write in a style that suggests concern for our situation but is actually just gloating. Comes with the territory of being a big club I suppose. They wouldn’t bother if it was Albion or Birmingham.

Stuart James is clearly enjoying himself. 'Crestfallen', 'disastrous', 'plumbed new depths', 'humiliation', 'shortcomings', 'depressing', 'misery' and 'turmoil' all in the first 5 lines!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/jan/23/aston-villa-new-low-bradford

Really poor tabloid style writing. I don't mind writing that is critical/poking fun but it has to be good or intelligent or something.

Haven't clicked on the link but those words you have a problem with are just about what every Villa fan I know has said about the Villa this season.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Maybe his expectations of what Aston Villa should be is the reason for such a description. Let's face it, everything about the club is first class except the football team. How much longer must we wait before somebody finally gets it right?