Why the long faces about Houllier?

[Salsa Party Animal]

I think if you look at whole picture, it will be a great appointment.

Youth - He can use his knowledge from French Football to make our Academy even better and maybe more development on younger players. This would be great for our club and make us lot of money from selling quality players to Barcelona,. Real Madrid and Moremoneythansense City. As long he continue using English and foreign players like we do today.

Scouting Network - We have nothing special for first team players. We don't even import players from oversea in last 4 season apart from Salifou, Carew and Guzan and very young kids. I wonder if we have a scout outside Europe for example.

Playing Football - Hopefully with Champions League experience from Lyon will make Gerard mould our team similar to them. He wouldn't put up with Martin O'Neill style. (Not sure what to expect)

Buying players - He would have a lot more contacts and see lot of young players and bound to bring some hot property from aboard. We just need a left back, 2 strikers and a midfield general for short term.

Trophies - I think we will do well in Cups and UEFA but will we be good enough to win the league or champions league is another question. (But you never know LOL)

Coaching Staff - He will use our coaching staff and add them with like of Phil Thompson and Steve Staunton (and possibly Dean Saunders if he want to leave Wrexham manager job)

I also will think Gerard wouldn't attempt to do too much and use his coaching team more.

I hope Gerard will be our Arsene Wenger for next few years.

[Willie Anderson]

 Wasn't he the manger when France failed to qualify for U.S.A 94 ? Ginola lost possesion and Bulgaria scored in the last minute to put them out,and Houllier publically slated Ginola,and there was a big fall out over it.

This is my main reason for not wanting anything to do with the twat, he's a bigger blame game merchant than TF & that's saying something. The manager should shield his players from undue public pressure/criticism. Phil Brown without the tango surprise look.

[peter w]

 Wasn't he the manger when France failed to qualify for U.S.A 94 ? Ginola lost possesion and Bulgaria scored in the last minute to put them out,and Houllier publically slated Ginola,and there was a big fall out over it.

This is my main reason for not wanting anything to do with the twat, he's a bigger blame game merchant than TF & that's saying something. The manager should shield his players from undue public pressure/criticism. Phil Brown without the tango surprise look.

Didn't he publicly blame Ginola for that? Giving away the ball at a corner, or taking a crap corner or something?

[pmk1981]

no matter how much i try and accept this and be happy for houllier being her i cant !!  i just dont want him as our manager.  fuckin rediculous appointment.  he is not the man to take us further,  mid table here we come

[eastie]

Give the guy a chance pmk, he deserves at least that much mate!

[Toronto Villa]

no matter how much i try and accept this and be happy for houllier being her i cant !!  i just dont want him as our manager.  fuckin rediculous appointment.  he is not the man to take us further,  mid table here we come

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Has he done something personally against you or your family? Your posts have been what's ridiculous on this topic. Does he have any history to the best of your knowledge of his teams coming mid-table, or are you just making stuff up now? I mean why would we want a manager that has won league titles, domestic and European trophies, has loads of experience and contacts around the world as our manager? I think I'm right in saying that he'll be the most successful manager ever hired by Villa in our long history. What exactly is "rediculous" about that?

[Concrete John]

Personally, I'm not against the appointment, even if he wouldn't have been my choice, but I also don't expect him to do any better than MON did.  THis season is up in the air as it'll be transitional, but after that I expect us to settle back down into 6th again.

[pmk1981]

the thing is we can give him a chance and after giving him that chance it all goes boobies to the sun and then we are stuck with him.
Granted if he does well than happy days,  but wouldnt you rather have someone you know is good rather than having to give the job to someone who hasnt managed a premier league team in 6 years.

When randy said he wanted premier league experience i didnt expect houllier.  The league has changed a lot in 6 years and it would of been better having someone who has managed in the last couple of years..

i really really want to be proved wrong , but i just cant get motivated on this appointment :-(

[pmk1981]

no matter how much i try and accept this and be happy for houllier being her i cant !!  i just dont want him as our manager.  fuckin rediculous appointment.  he is not the man to take us further,  mid table here we come

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Has he done something personally against you or your family? Your posts have been what's ridiculous on this topic. Does he have any history to the best of your knowledge of his teams coming mid-table, or are you just making stuff up now? I mean why would we want a manager that has won league titles, domestic and European trophies, has loads of experience and contacts around the world as our manager? I think I'm right in saying that he'll be the most successful manager ever hired by Villa in our long history. What exactly is "rediculous" about that?

i know mate, but a lot of this was achieved a long time ago,  times change

[Toronto Villa]

Personally, I'm not against the appointment, even if he wouldn't have been my choice, but I also don't expect him to do any better than MON did.  THis season is up in the air as it'll be transitional, but after that I expect us to settle back down into 6th again.

Fair enough, and I think you're right that 6th this season may be a good achievement. However, it's what else he does that is more important. I've said before that this squad as it is today is good enough with the right manager for minimum 8th. We need some fresh faces in January for sure, and for the first time in a long time we can all look forward to a transfer window in great anticipation. What I want from Houllier is that we progress as a club from where MON left us. That we broaden our reach for players, that we become technically better and maintain our ability to challenge on multiple fronts, especially in Europe.

[Toronto Villa]

no matter how much i try and accept this and be happy for houllier being her i cant !!  i just dont want him as our manager.  fuckin rediculous appointment.  he is not the man to take us further,  mid table here we come

]

Has he done something personally against you or your family? Your posts have been what's ridiculous on this topic. Does he have any history to the best of your knowledge of his teams coming mid-table, or are you just making stuff up now? I mean why would we want a manager that has won league titles, domestic and European trophies, has loads of experience and contacts around the world as our manager? I think I'm right in saying that he'll be the most successful manager ever hired by Villa in our long history. What exactly is "rediculous" about that?

i know mate, but a lot of this was achieved a long time ago,  times change

he was manager of Lyon, I believe from 2005 to 2007. That's only 3 years ago. The game hasn't changed a lot since then. It's not like he's coming out of retirement after 20 years. He's been in the game in a technical and developmental level for France. If nothing else he is going to be very well positioned to know who the next promising French players are. His contacts across Europe will also mean he will likely have better knowledge of the continental game than almost any domestic hire we could have made. You have to give him a chance to bring his philosophy to Villa, and see how it plays out.

[Lambert and Payne]

Im worried with technique side Gabbys gunna struggle, cus his pace is the most important factor and you dont generally use the fitness side when you use technique. Also i just cant bring myself to accepting Phil Thompson, the guy irritates me so much and long before he was on sky

[Concrete John]

Personally, I'm not against the appointment, even if he wouldn't have been my choice, but I also don't expect him to do any better than MON did.  THis season is up in the air as it'll be transitional, but after that I expect us to settle back down into 6th again.

Fair enough, and I think you're right that 6th this season may be a good achievement. However, it's what else he does that is more important. I've said before that this squad as it is today is good enough with the right manager for minimum 8th. We need some fresh faces in January for sure, and for the first time in a long time we can all look forward to a transfer window in great anticipation. What I want from Houllier is that we progress as a club from where MON left us. That we broaden our reach for players, that we become technically better and maintain our ability to challenge on multiple fronts, especially in Europe.

Well, Houllier's transfers and Liverpool were pretty hit and miss, much like MON's for us.  So it will be foreign players who we are arguing the toss over and not British ones, but things won't change, IMO.

His footballing style also seems to be very defensive, so those crying out for a more expansive game will be disappointed.

Things will be different, but overall results won't improve.  And I do hope to be proven wrong on that!

[Chris Smith]

What I'm hoping for is an overhaul of the structure so that next time the Board's intransigence (that's a joke in case you're watching General) causes a manager to walk out we're better able to cope. I'm hoping for him to use his contacts in the game to attract players who might not previously have considered joining us, for us not to suffer too much of a transition period and I'm hoping to see Steve Sidwell become the player we thought he might be.

[Toronto Villa]

Im worried with technique side Gabbys gunna struggle, cus his pace is the most important factor and you dont generally use the fitness side when you use technique. Also i just cant bring myself to accepting Phil Thompson, the guy irritates me so much and long before he was on sky

so if he's willing to give up a cushy job on TV to coach Villa, you wouldn't look past your personal dislike of him as a TV pundit? I don't care one little bit about his personal biases or his act on Sky. What I care about is him as a professional and being committed to Villa under Houllier.