The legacy of Martin O'Neill

[Rudy Can't Fail]

There's a lot to be said for quitting while you are ahead.

Indeed there is. Only this afternoon the TV crews were out interviewing fans as to who should be the next England manager, now that Capello will stand down after Euro 2012. Somebody mentioned O'Neill and I really was taken aback. Can you imagine MON taking England to the World Cup in Brazil, the thought is frightening (unless you're Scottish). I couldn't stop thinking of the Mike Bassett - England Manager film. Maybe it's his destiny.

[AV82EC]

There's a lot to be said for quitting while you are ahead.

Indeed there is. Only this afternoon the TV crews were out interviewing fans as to who should be the next England manager, now that Capello will stand down after Euro 2012. Somebody mentioned O'Neill and I really was taken aback. Can you imagine MON taking England to the World Cup in Brazil, the thought is frightening (unless you're Scottish). I couldn't stop thinking of the Mike Bassett - England Manager film. Maybe it's his destiny.

The trouble is Mark, didn't Mike Bassett get us to the semifinal playing 4-4-2. (Winky thing)

It would be good to recreate that fight between the English, Scots and Irish at Rio airport as well.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

There's a lot to be said for quitting while you are ahead.

Indeed there is. Only this afternoon the TV crews were out interviewing fans as to who should be the next England manager, now that Capello will stand down after Euro 2012. Somebody mentioned O'Neill and I really was taken aback. Can you imagine MON taking England to the World Cup in Brazil, the thought is frightening (unless you're Scottish). I couldn't stop thinking of the Mike Bassett - England Manager film. Maybe it's his destiny.

The trouble is Mark, didn't Mike Bassett get us to the semifinal playing 4-4-2. (Winky thing)

It would be good to recreate that fight between the English, Scots and Irish at Rio airport as well.

Maybe he'll go for the Wales job.

[sfx412]

I think we were reasonably closely matched on 1st 11.

The two games last season showed the huge gulf in approach and style between the two teams. I don't recall the line ups but only one team looked like breaking the top 4.

For 2 teams of similar strength how come they had Crouch, Defoe, Keane compared to Heskey Carew and Gabby ?

[Villa'Zawg]

I think we were reasonably closely matched on 1st 11.

The two games last season showed the huge gulf in approach and style between the two teams. I don't recall the line ups but only one team looked like breaking the top 4.

For 2 teams of similar strength how come they had Crouch, Defoe, Keane compared to Heskey Carew and Gabby ?

I'm not sure of your point. Are you agreeing with me that whilst the first 11 was closely matched, Spurs have more strength in depth? Are you pointing out we've spent 3.5m and a Milan Baros swap compared to Harry's £40,000,000 on strikers?

[pauliewalnuts]

I think we were reasonably closely matched on 1st 11.

The two games last season showed the huge gulf in approach and style between the two teams. I don't recall the line ups but only one team looked like breaking the top 4.

For 2 teams of similar strength how come they had Crouch, Defoe, Keane compared to Heskey Carew and Gabby ?

I'm not sure of your point. Are you agreeing with me that whilst the first 11 was closely matched, Spurs have more strength in depth? Are you pointing out we've spent 3.5m and a Milan Baros swap compared to Harry's £40,000,000 on strikers?

That's a good measure of Martin's legacy - his total inability to spot a decent striker acquisition. I think we're going to suffer most from a lack of goals this season.

[Villa'Zawg]

I think we were reasonably closely matched on 1st 11.

The two games last season showed the huge gulf in approach and style between the two teams. I don't recall the line ups but only one team looked like breaking the top 4.

For 2 teams of similar strength how come they had Crouch, Defoe, Keane compared to Heskey Carew and Gabby ?

I'm not sure of your point. Are you agreeing with me that whilst the first 11 was closely matched, Spurs have more strength in depth? Are you pointing out we've spent 3.5m and a Milan Baros swap compared to Harry's £40,000,000 on strikers?

That's a good measure of Martin's legacy - his total inability to spot a decent striker acquisition. I think we're going to suffer most from a lack of goals this season.

Gabby and Carew have been 2 of the best strikers in the league over the last 3 or 4 seasons, certainly better than Crouch and Keane. It's always nice to have more good strikers but we've not been in a position to be spending 10-12m on squad players like Spurs have.

[eamonn]

Except when Spurs spend that amount of money on a player they expect them to get into the first team and hopefully do well enough to stay there. Not too dissimilar to us when buying Davies and Reo-Coker for £16m.

[Villa'Zawg]

Except when Spurs spend that amount of money on a player they expect them to get into the first team and hopefully do well enough to stay there. Not too dissimilar to us when buying Davies and Reo-Coker for £16m.

I'm not sure Spurs would expect to be able to play a team with Bentley, Paylyuchenko, Corluka, Defoe, Palacios, Keane, Naughton, Crouch, Bassong and Van der Vaart (all purchased in the last 2 years for £8m-£15m) as first team starters on top of the likes of Lennon, Jenas, Modric, Assou-Okotto, Dawson, King, Bale, Hutton etc... They clearly have been paying big money for squad players.

[hilts_coolerking]

Spurs have spent a lot of money and so have we.  They have spent theirs better than O'Neill did and got more out of their players than O'Neill did. Even some of their flops (e.g. Bale and Pavlyuchenko) played important roles for them last season.  The proportion of our £120M or whatever that O'Neill spent on players who made almost zero contribution is frightening.

[Villa'Zawg]

Spurs have spent a lot of money and so have we.  They have spent theirs better than O'Neill did and got more out of their players than O'Neill did. Even some of their flops (e.g. Bale and Pavlyuchenko) played important roles for them last season.  The proportion of our £120M or whatever that O'Neill spent on players who made almost zero contribution is frightening.

Here you go, I've tidied it up for you...

Spurs have spent a lot more money than we have.  They have spent much more than O'Neill did and got more out of having more players than O'Neill did. Even some of their very expensive squad players (e.g. Bale and Pavlyuchenko) played important roles for them last season.  The proportion of our £120M or whatever that O'Neill spent on players who made almost zero contribution is funnily enough almost zero, although a few of them have now been replaced as 1st choice.

[hilts_coolerking]

Nope. I was spot on first time thanks.

[Chris Smith]

The mighty Spurs hot on the heels of losing at home to Wigan are currently drawing with the Baggies. What a club, what a manager.

Our new manager seems quite impressed with the squad he has inherited.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

The mighty Spurs hot on the heels of losing at home to Wigan are currently drawing with the Baggies. What a club, what a manager.

He's a better manager than O'Neill.

[barrysleftfoot]

  Who are you going to constantly whinge about now MON has gone?


  Hes gone, time to move on.