Quote from: PaulWinch again on March 23, 2013, 02:13:26 PMHe should stay for his own personal development.Is what I think as well.
He should stay for his own personal development.
This will make you all giggle:http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=550&fid=255&sty=2&act=1&mid=2113153932
From the Bitter Birds thread. Deluded twats. Quote from: Billy Walker on March 23, 2013, 03:10:41 PMThis will make you all giggle:http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=550&fid=255&sty=2&act=1&mid=2113153932
Quote from: Chris Smith on March 23, 2013, 01:38:49 PMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on March 23, 2013, 01:13:02 PMH0dge is primarily considered a twat because of THAT game, not just because he wanted to leave. Same as a lot of people turned on Yorke for his performance at Everton rather than he just wanted to leave. And a lot lost respect for Platt when we found out he spent a year learning Italian while he was with us. So to me that isn't the same. My argument is simple, what and why does he owe us that we wouldn't owe him if the roles were reversed. I'm not talking about releasing players who aren't deemed good enough, I mean players like Weimann. Young, looks as though he'll be good enough but if we decided to sell for whatever reason why is that okay but him wanting to leave isn't? I'm trying to find out if it's a double standard. And if it is do we overlook it because it benefits our club? If we decided to accept a bid, while he's under contract, then he still has the choice to accept it or not. Both sides have options.Him just refusing to sign a contract leaves us with few options, and all the time and effort we've put into his development is lost. I think throwing in lots of "what ifs" just clouds the issue. Each case has to be judged on its merits and I stand by my position as stated earlier.I'm not clouding the issue as i'm not claiming that my question is at all current fact. All i'm doing is asking a pretty simple "what if" question that you don't want to answer for some reason.
Quote from: PeterWithesShin on March 23, 2013, 01:13:02 PMH0dge is primarily considered a twat because of THAT game, not just because he wanted to leave. Same as a lot of people turned on Yorke for his performance at Everton rather than he just wanted to leave. And a lot lost respect for Platt when we found out he spent a year learning Italian while he was with us. So to me that isn't the same. My argument is simple, what and why does he owe us that we wouldn't owe him if the roles were reversed. I'm not talking about releasing players who aren't deemed good enough, I mean players like Weimann. Young, looks as though he'll be good enough but if we decided to sell for whatever reason why is that okay but him wanting to leave isn't? I'm trying to find out if it's a double standard. And if it is do we overlook it because it benefits our club? If we decided to accept a bid, while he's under contract, then he still has the choice to accept it or not. Both sides have options.Him just refusing to sign a contract leaves us with few options, and all the time and effort we've put into his development is lost. I think throwing in lots of "what ifs" just clouds the issue. Each case has to be judged on its merits and I stand by my position as stated earlier.
H0dge is primarily considered a twat because of THAT game, not just because he wanted to leave. Same as a lot of people turned on Yorke for his performance at Everton rather than he just wanted to leave. And a lot lost respect for Platt when we found out he spent a year learning Italian while he was with us. So to me that isn't the same. My argument is simple, what and why does he owe us that we wouldn't owe him if the roles were reversed. I'm not talking about releasing players who aren't deemed good enough, I mean players like Weimann. Young, looks as though he'll be good enough but if we decided to sell for whatever reason why is that okay but him wanting to leave isn't? I'm trying to find out if it's a double standard. And if it is do we overlook it because it benefits our club?
P.s. Great to see you back being an obstinate bugger Chris!
Quote from: PeterWithesShin on March 23, 2013, 03:39:59 PMP.s. Great to see you back being an obstinate bugger Chris! Ha.I was just thinking I must be feeling better to get into this. That and too much time on my hands with all my plans blown out because of the snow.
Going to Liverpool £5 mil, is the latest news.
http://metro.co.uk/2013/03/23/liverpool-close-on-andreas-weimann-as-aston-villa-contract-talks-stall-3556583/?