The Martin O'Neill thread (with added sacking #2188)

[john e]

the top of the table is very different now than when MON was with us

there was a set in stone top 4 of Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal then,
now we have Man City's millions to deal with, Totenham are a real force now, but were flirting with relegation at times back then,

so if you accept that the top 4 would reamain the same, you were competing against Everton, Spurs,Newcastle or a smaller club having a great season to finish 5th or 6th,
Man City were no where near anything at the time,
 so with the many millions spent the 3 x 6th spots i dont think were anything that special

Better than the shit served up this season though!

yes agreed
but i still dont think it imposible for us to finish 7th, which is the new 6th because of Man City in the next say 2-3 years

[saunders_heroes]

the top of the table is very different now than when MON was with us

there was a set in stone top 4 of Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal then,
now we have Man City's millions to deal with, Totenham are a real force now, but were flirting with relegation at times back then,

so if you accept that the top 4 would reamain the same, you were competing against Everton, Spurs,Newcastle or a smaller club having a great season to finish 5th or 6th,
Man City were no where near anything at the time,
 so with the many millions spent the 3 x 6th spots i dont think were anything that special

Better than the shit served up this season though!

yes agreed
but i still dont think it imposible for us to finish 7th, which is the new 6th because of Man City in the next say 2-3 years

Not with the type of players we sign these days though. I think Lerner is happy just to see us survive every season. A bit like Wigan I suppose.

[PaulTheVillan]

Didn't MONs best run for us coincide with Sidwell being in the team?

[N'ZMAV]

Ginger Messi with Gabby up front on his own. World beaters. Till we went to Moscow.

[john e]

the top of the table is very different now than when MON was with us

there was a set in stone top 4 of Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal then,
now we have Man City's millions to deal with, Totenham are a real force now, but were flirting with relegation at times back then,

so if you accept that the top 4 would reamain the same, you were competing against Everton, Spurs,Newcastle or a smaller club having a great season to finish 5th or 6th,
Man City were no where near anything at the time,
 so with the many millions spent the 3 x 6th spots i dont think were anything that special

Better than the shit served up this season though!

yes agreed
but i still dont think it imposible for us to finish 7th, which is the new 6th because of Man City in the next say 2-3 years

Not with the type of players we sign these days though. I think Lerner is happy just to see us survive every season. A bit like Wigan I suppose.

disagree,
with the likes of Benteke, Wieman, Westwood, Guzan plus one or two others i think we could well challenge for a top 7/8 finish
but obviously my optimistic prediction is based on a quite different assement of Lamberts capabillities compared to yours

[paul_e]

the top of the table is very different now than when MON was with us

there was a set in stone top 4 of Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal then,
now we have Man City's millions to deal with, Totenham are a real force now, but were flirting with relegation at times back then,

so if you accept that the top 4 would reamain the same, you were competing against Everton, Spurs,Newcastle or a smaller club having a great season to finish 5th or 6th,
Man City were no where near anything at the time,
 so with the many millions spent the 3 x 6th spots i dont think were anything that special

Better than the shit served up this season though!

yes agreed
but i still dont think it imposible for us to finish 7th, which is the new 6th because of Man City in the next say 2-3 years

Not with the type of players we sign these days though. I think Lerner is happy just to see us survive every season. A bit like Wigan I suppose.

Like Benteke for instance?

[Mister E]

He offloaded three young players currently playing in Premiership defences (Cahill, Gardner and Ridgewell) and brought in a number of highly-paid defenders on long contracts. I'm not saying the aforemeontioned three would have been our salvation, but we needed seasoned defenders this season and have suffered from not having them.

Add to this all the other hindsighted issues with MON and I wish him nothing but an ignomious fall from his media pedestal.

[N'ZMAV]

I'd have killed for Gardner, Cahill and even Ridgewell at times this season.

[saunders_heroes]

the top of the table is very different now than when MON was with us

there was a set in stone top 4 of Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal then,
now we have Man City's millions to deal with, Totenham are a real force now, but were flirting with relegation at times back then,

so if you accept that the top 4 would reamain the same, you were competing against Everton, Spurs,Newcastle or a smaller club having a great season to finish 5th or 6th,
Man City were no where near anything at the time,
 so with the many millions spent the 3 x 6th spots i dont think were anything that special

Better than the shit served up this season though!

yes agreed
but i still dont think it imposible for us to finish 7th, which is the new 6th because of Man City in the next say 2-3 years

Not with the type of players we sign these days though. I think Lerner is happy just to see us survive every season. A bit like Wigan I suppose.

disagree,
with the likes of Benteke, Wieman, Westwood, Guzan plus one or two others i think we could well challenge for a top 7/8 finish
but obviously my optimistic prediction is based on a quite different assement of Lamberts capabillities compared to yours

Benteke is a good signing. The rest, well, the league table tells the tale.

[saunders_heroes]

the top of the table is very different now than when MON was with us

there was a set in stone top 4 of Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal then,
now we have Man City's millions to deal with, Totenham are a real force now, but were flirting with relegation at times back then,

so if you accept that the top 4 would reamain the same, you were competing against Everton, Spurs,Newcastle or a smaller club having a great season to finish 5th or 6th,
Man City were no where near anything at the time,
 so with the many millions spent the 3 x 6th spots i dont think were anything that special

Better than the shit served up this season though!

yes agreed
but i still dont think it imposible for us to finish 7th, which is the new 6th because of Man City in the next say 2-3 years

Not with the type of players we sign these days though. I think Lerner is happy just to see us survive every season. A bit like Wigan I suppose.

Like Benteke for instance?

Or Bennett?

[saunders_heroes]

I'd have killed for Gardner, Cahill and even Ridgewell at times this season.

No one batted an eyelid when Gardner and Ridgewell left. Cahill, well that's a different matter.

[N'ZMAV]

I'd have killed for Gardner, Cahill and even Ridgewell at times this season.

No one batted an eyelid when Gardner and Ridgewell left. Cahill, well that's a different matter.

That shows how far we've fell really.

[saunders_heroes]

I'd have killed for Gardner, Cahill and even Ridgewell at times this season.

No one batted an eyelid when Gardner and Ridgewell left. Cahill, well that's a different matter.

That shows how far we've fell really.

Yep.

[SoccerHQ]

the top of the table is very different now than when MON was with us

there was a set in stone top 4 of Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal then,
now we have Man City's millions to deal with, Totenham are a real force now, but were flirting with relegation at times back then,

so if you accept that the top 4 would reamain the same, you were competing against Everton, Spurs,Newcastle or a smaller club having a great season to finish 5th or 6th,
Man City were no where near anything at the time,
 so with the many millions spent the 3 x 6th spots i dont think were anything that special

Better than the shit served up this season though!

You'd expect that for the vast amount of money spent wouldn't you? MON spent a lot more than 25m a season.

[SoccerHQ]

I wonder if he now looks back on shitting on us, and wishes he hadn't done it.

If he gets the bullet or walks from Sunderland, surely that's it for his career. He'd struggle to get a sideways move, even.

I think Damon called it right. He'll just retire like Clough did and pop up on tv from time to time.