The Martin O'Neill thread (with added sacking #2188)

[Rip Van We Go Again]

I believe Dave Cooper got brickbats for (correctly) referring to him as Marlon Fucking Harewood.

[ktvillan]

But what would we give for a sixth place finish now, MON had come to the end of his time with us, much bigger reputation than he ever deserved, the way he left was awful and no never forgive him for that, but above him in the club people were responsible for allowing him movement he should never have had, people like the General who were put forward as the clubs representative to us , the cap doffing supporters and now when the first rose buds die , have fucked off to be some smiley face for some yank uni, Pube head got it wrong but what worries me is the people who should have been pulling his strings, but obviously did not are still in total control of our club, but what we can do about it now, is hope when he gets fed up, he sells and fucks off , because the longer it goes on the more convinced I am that Randy is the problem,

When I read one of your posts I subconsciously translate your name into pbavfcfuckwit.  Sorry about that.

I always see it that way too.

[Villadroid]

Fans seem to base their case against MON on the fact that he paid too dear for some very ordinary players.

So does anyone think that Villa's unfashionable status and the fact that for Villa players the height of glamour on offer is a house on the Four Oaks estate, distorts the market.

 

[not3bad]

What's all this "hindsight" rubbish.  It was clear to see at the time he was a very limited manager blowing the once in a generation war chest on mostly dross.     

Well said.  There was no need for hindsight to see that signings like Harewood, Heskey, Reo-Coker, Knight and a few others were not what we'd been led to expect and were not going to transform us into CL standard performers.  Or that MON's transfer policy was incredibly blinkered, and his playing style dreadful to watch with no plan B. All of which was stated by many at the time.   

Well, overall I was still happy with the way MON was running things.  I guess the year on year improvement in the points tally and the year on year improvement in the cup competitions was blinding me.

[Chico Hamilton III]

Fans seem to base their case against MON on the fact that he paid too dear for some very ordinary players.

Seems a reasonable enough case to me

So does anyone think that Villa's unfashionable status and the fact that for Villa players the height of glamour on offer is a house on the Four Oaks estate, distorts the market.

I thought it was Houlier who insisted that Villa players should live within 30 miles of Bodymore Heath? Under O'Neill many players were commuting to Villa from the glamour of the North West? 

[Percy McCarthy]

There are some very nice Warwickshire piles within thirty miles of Bodymoor Heath.

[Dave Cooper please]

Fans seem to base their case against MON on the fact that he paid too dear for some very ordinary players.

So does anyone think that Villa's unfashionable status and the fact that for Villa players the height of glamour on offer is a house on the Four Oaks estate, distorts the market.

Possibly, but that still doesn't excuse the likes of Habib Beye and Marlon Fucking Harewood does it?

[Villadroid]

Fans seem to base their case against MON on the fact that he paid too dear for some very ordinary players.

So does anyone think that Villa's unfashionable status and the fact that for Villa players the height of glamour on offer is a house on the Four Oaks estate, distorts the market.

Possibly, but that still doesn't excuse the likes of Habib Beye and Marlon Fucking Harewood does it?

I have no fucking idea. if these two ****** were the only reason for the difference between Villa's 6th fucking place finishes and a top fucking four finish, I suppose it would be totally unfuckingforgivable.

But it is difficult to think of a pair of other fuckers who were fucking capable of reducing the ten point fucking gap which was the fucking difference.

I certainly can't think of any fuckers, can you?

[KevinGage]

Fans seem to base their case against MON on the fact that he paid too dear for some very ordinary players.

So does anyone think that Villa's unfashionable status and the fact that for Villa players the height of glamour on offer is a house on the Four Oaks estate, distorts the market.

 

Seeing as we were viewed as a club on the up, with a popular (as was) manager, a billionaire owner (when such things were less in vogue) then no, I don't. 

[WarszaVillan]

It's never going to stop is it

[Villadroid]

Fans seem to base their case against MON on the fact that he paid too dear for some very ordinary players.

So does anyone think that Villa's unfashionable status and the fact that for Villa players the height of glamour on offer is a house on the Four Oaks estate, distorts the market.

 

Seeing as we were viewed as a club on the up, with a popular (as was) manager, a billionaire owner (when such things were less in vogue) then no, I don't.

But surely you can't change the perception of a brand overnight and in a sellers market things tend to cost more.

[Dave Cooper please]

I have no fucking idea. if these two c***s were the only reason for the difference between Villa's 6th fucking place finishes and a top fucking four finish, I suppose it would be totally unfuckingforgivable.

But it is difficult to think of a pair of other fuckers who were fucking capable of reducing the ten point fucking gap which was the fucking difference.

I certainly can't think of any fuckers, can you?

That wasn't the point.

The point was that even if we couldn't attract the top calibre of players there was still absolutely no excuse for blowing whole chunks of transfer and wage budget on the likes of the above mentioned, one of which never played and the other should never have been anywhere near a Premiership squad.
 I may not be able to think of two players who could have bridged the gap between sixth and fourth but I can think of a hell of a lot that were better than Habib beye and Marlon 'Fucking' Harewood!

[bertlambshank]

Fans seem to base their case against MON on the fact that he paid too dear for some very ordinary players.

So does anyone think that Villa's unfashionable status and the fact that for Villa players the height of glamour on offer is a house on the Four Oaks estate, distorts the market.

 

Seeing as we were viewed as a club on the up, with a popular (as was) manager, a billionaire owner (when such things were less in vogue) then no, I don't.

But surely you can't change the perception of a brand overnight and in a sellers market things tend to cost more.

What a load of old cock.MON had no need to overpay but did.

[Risso]

I looked at all of O'Neill's player purchases once, and in something like 40 acquistions while at Celtic and Villa, he bought roughly three players from outside of the English or Scottish leagues, and even those his influence was questionable, eg Carew.

[German James]

It's never going to stop is it

Doesn't look like it.