The Milner Novela... Final episode page 296

[TimTheVillain]

I don't want to lose Milner.I also do not want this drawn out till the end of the summer by which time there is no time to spend cash from proceeds.A deal which brought Ireland and Bellamy to us (plus cash)would be worth considering.

.............and MON should be closing this deal now - 2 very good players in, one very good one out PLUS £10 mill.

Bring it on I say and let's all get on with the game we love.

[DB]

I wold say that £30m is a lot but when you consider they paid £18m for Santa Cruz, it's a bit of a bargin.

[john e]

Its imortant to remember that MON isn't conducting this potential deal. Randy and Paul Faulkner are.

I also think it spells out in big flaming letters that WE DO NOT NEED OR WANT TO SELL JAMES MILNER. If we did we wouldn't risk them walking away. Them walking away is exactly what we do want, apparently.

Randy ? is he even here,
 are you sure about that, MON is a man who has even the groundsman reporting directly to him,
 so i would have thought that being the ultimate control freak, he is involved all the way down the line,

we dont need to sell Milner as you say, but if he goes in the last week of the window, we wont be able to re build or replace him efectively,
 and as usual be scrapping round for last minuet panick deals.

i hope yopu are right though,
because if there was ever a good case for having a director of football, MON is it, as he is miles out of his depth in the transfer market, hasnt got a clue what he's doing,

its all about holding out against other clubs, when he should be building the Villa team rather than playing mexican stand offs with our competitors.

[Concrete John]

Perhaps Ireland doesn't want to come. Hence SWP being offered instead.

In as unbiased a way as I can say this, why would Ireland NOT want to come?  

If you take him leaving Man City as a given, then what wouldn't be attractive about the club that finished 1 place below them, and in the same European competition, with a James Milner sized hole in the side so he could be quite confident about playing every week?

[pauliewalnuts]

Perhaps Ireland doesn't want to come. Hence SWP being offered instead.

In as unbiased a way as I can say this, why would Ireland NOT want to come?  

If you take him leaving Man City as a given, then what wouldn't be attractive about the club that finished 1 place below them, and in the same European competition, with a James Milner sized hole in the side so he could be quite confident about playing every week?

Worth noting that if brains were dynamite, Ireland couldn't blow the wax out of his ears.

[ronshirt]

Perhaps Ireland doesn't want to come. Hence SWP being offered instead.

In as unbiased a way as I can say this, why would Ireland NOT want to come?  

If you take him leaving Man City as a given, then what wouldn't be attractive about the club that finished 1 place below them, and in the same European competition, with a James Milner sized hole in the side so he could be quite confident about playing every week?

Maybe the money? Maybe the manager?  I don't pretend to know. I just thought it strange that  yesterday SWP was suddenly introduced into the equation.

[MattW]

Martin O'Neill in The Sun; setting up a win-win and ready to play hardball.  

MARTIN O'NEILL believes James Milner could still snub Manchester City to stay at Aston Villa.

Villa boss O'Neill held showdown talks with the England midfielder earlier this week.

Megabucks City are keen to sign Milner but are not willing to meet Villa's £30million asking price.

And O'Neill insists he wants to keep hold of the Premier League's Young Player of the Year.

He said: "We had a meeting with James on Monday.

"The word 'amicable' was used to describe the meeting and that would be quite right.

"If you can draw a comparison to Gareth Barry, if it didn't go through, then, of course, he would feel a possible loss for a little while.

"But at the end of it all, Gareth settled down and played brilliantly for us.

"I think the overwhelming majority of supporters, seeing what James did for us last season, would be delighted if he stayed."

O'Neill feels Milner's chances of playing could be limited if he joins City.

He added: "I can understand that players would be affected by offers from Manchester City, particularly now it looks as if they can get who they want.

"Some of us a season or two ago had a wry smile when they were after Kaka and we thought that was just impossible.

"Now you get the impression that within a month or two, he wouldn't get into their team!"

[Pete3206]

God, there's a lot of old cobblers being talked about our finances.

Do you know something we don't?

Depends who you mean by 'we'.
I know some of the suggestions put forward on our financial state are absolute bollocks though, yes.

Please enlighten me.

[Concrete John]

Perhaps Ireland doesn't want to come. Hence SWP being offered instead.

In as unbiased a way as I can say this, why would Ireland NOT want to come?  

If you take him leaving Man City as a given, then what wouldn't be attractive about the club that finished 1 place below them, and in the same European competition, with a James Milner sized hole in the side so he could be quite confident about playing every week?

Maybe the money? Maybe the manager?  I don't pretend to know. I just thought it strange that  yesterday SWP was suddenly introduced into the equation.

Was he, or was it a case of the Mirror making some shit up?  Let's not forget that there has been no offical confirmation of any offers/talks since the initial £20m bid.

And even if true, it may only be a negotiation tactic.  They know we want Ireland, so are holding back until we actually ASK for him in the deal, which gives them a stronger bargaining position to ask for more for him, thereby reducing their outlay on Milner.

All speculation, but I think Ireland would at least be interested in talking to us.

[Walmley_Villa]

What if Milner stayed and we signed Ireland using the sale of Luke Young and others to fund?

[PaulTheVillan]

What if Milner stayed and we signed Ireland using the sale of Luke Young and others to fund?

Can he play Right Back?

[Mazrim]

Please enlighten me.

The forums are rife with it at the moment. The notion that we are searching down the back of the sofa for change to try and buy players for instance. Bollocks.
The notion that we are and always were planning our finances around selling Milner. Bollocks.
And so on...

[stevenjos]

Martins latest ramblings make interesting reading (if interesting is wanting to stab yourself in the eyes)

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"The latest state of play is that Manchester City have gone as far as they want to," said O'Neill.

"We'll wait with baited breath on that one, myself included."

O'Neill added: "I think obviously the overriding opinion of all Villa fans is that they would love James to stay at the football club.

"But as I speak here now at this minute, my honest opinion, I cannot guarantee that, but we will see."

SO lets break this down:

Man City have gone as far as they want to and dont want to meet our valuation. Soooooo the deal is dead! WOOOOOPPPP> We get to keep Milner

Hang on............

"We'll wait with baited breath on that one, myself included."

Why Wait?? They havent met our valuation! Its over. Release a statement saying the deal is dead and move on!

O'Neill added: "I think obviously the overriding opinion of all Villa fans is that they would love James to stay at the football club.

Yes Martin, we quite like having good players! i know its a shock to you after buying some serious sh*t.

"But as I speak here now at this minute, my honest opinion, I cannot guarantee that, but we will see."

Why cant you guarantee that Martin? They have told you they have

"gone as far as they want to"

So its over.

UNLESS YOU WANT TO SELL! He's a chequebook manager and i reckon the books been closed after Randy popped over and noticed a lot of expensive players not coming on for knackered favourites.

Milners going and its Martin who's engineering all of this. All the quotes he has released are big fat "come and get him" quotes. Milner knows speaking out will lead to a Barry fine.



another interesting bit is this though:

"There is no question that James Milner will continue to give his best if the deal doesn't go through," added O'Neill.

"James loves playing and last season played when others wouldn't.

"That is why I have no concern in regard to his character and involvement with Villa."

So we had players who wouldnt play?? why not? who are they?

looks like someone is losing their grip!

[Mazrim]

What if Milner stayed and we signed Ireland using the sale of Luke Young and others to fund?

I havent seen one shred of evidence to suggest that we couldn't afford to just go and buy Ireland, Milner sale or no. Only the suggestion we have to get shot of players on big money who dont play and take up a potential squad place. Not one shred.

[cdward]

Perhaps Ireland doesn't want to come. Hence SWP being offered instead.

In as unbiased a way as I can say this, why would Ireland NOT want to come?  

If you are trying to say that he thinks in a logical way, how do you explain his 3 grannys dying, his refusal to play for his country, and the fact he thinks he is Clarke Kent by day!