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Offline pablopicasso_10

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« Reply #1155 on: June 07, 2010, 10:45:35 AM »
have to laugh at the media agendas...

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« Reply #1156 on: June 07, 2010, 10:49:01 AM »
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have to laugh at the media agendas...

"Trying to sell as many newspapers as possible"?

What other agenda do you think there might be?

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« Reply #1157 on: June 07, 2010, 10:50:00 AM »
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have to laugh at the media agendas...

"Trying to sell as many newspapers as possible"?

What other agenda do you think there might be?


They're all, to a man, anti-Villa. Didn't you know that by now?

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« Reply #1158 on: June 07, 2010, 10:51:38 AM »
The £30 million is a made up figure.

The trouble with the Citeh money is that it's making money almost valueless so 'even' £30 million looks low.

I'd much rather see us take SWP, Ireland and Bellamy plus £10 million which we could then add to our kitty and spend on some more quality.

I guess we're a bit like Everton were when they had Rooney on their hands at the moment and as long we cash in on JM in our favour at least we can use  the opportunity to improve the whole team .... imo

PS. I base this on the fact that MIlner hasn't committed himself to us and as such am thinking that he is listening to those offers with interest.

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« Reply #1159 on: June 07, 2010, 10:53:40 AM »
The key is whether on not milner wants to sign an extension , if not in a yrs time he will have oy one yreft on his contract and the price would drop massively.

If James wants to stay he will sign a new contract, if not then it would be better to sell now rather than wait a year.

If we got Ireland and keane in for milner I think it would be good business-a yr ago many people would have rated Ireland higher than milner, if we could get Ireland playing as he can he would be a great signing.

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« Reply #1160 on: June 07, 2010, 10:54:06 AM »
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The £30 million is a made up figure.

The trouble with the Citeh money is that it's making money almost valueless so 'even' £30 million looks low.

I'd much rather see us take SWP, Ireland and Bellamy plus £10 million which we could then add to our kitty and spend some more quality.

I guess we're a bit like Everton were when they had Rooney on their hands at the moment and as long we cash in on JM in our favour at least we can use  the opportunity to improve the whole team team .... imo

PS. I base this on the fact that MIlner hasn't committed himself to us and as such am thinking that he is listening to those offers with interest.


IF we do value Milner at £30m then I'm sure City will equate your deal at around the £40m mark......

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« Reply #1161 on: June 07, 2010, 10:54:18 AM »
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have to laugh at the media agendas...

"Trying to sell as many newspapers as possible"?

What other agenda do you think there might be?


I reckon in this instance they are acting on a leak from Man City or an agent involved on their behalf and by wording it in a way that keeps them happy they can gurantee themsleves more stories from the same source.

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« Reply #1162 on: June 07, 2010, 10:55:22 AM »
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I'm still waiting for us to put a bid in for Ireland. It's the type of signing that may go some way to convince James we're heading in the right direction and no just looking to stand still. A change of heart as to how we approach the Europa League may also help. I guess all top players want to test themselves against foreign opposition, whether it be by playing for their country or European competitions. It would also give us some valueable experience should we one day actually qualify for the Champions League, rather than go in there as European virgins.


Yep, I'd be really impressed. Signing a player that can't get into the Man City first team???

Irelands a decent player but thats it. Ability wise he's better than some of our midfielders but why on Earth would Milner think 'Wow, Villa really mean business signing one of Citys reserves'

Whilst the jury may still be out on just how good Ireland is, he'd certainly be a good addition of our squad and the type of player that can change a game in an instant. Steve Sidwell he ain't.


I agree, but your point is it will signal our intent to Milner, which it would and I don't think he'd be too impressed. Not when the team who are bidding for you are rumoured to be close to signing Edin Dzeko, Yaya Toure amongst others.

Citeh are rumoured to be interested in every decent player. Mancini has today come out and said he's surprised at the number of players they've been linked with as he's only looking to make a couple of additions to their squad.

If Ireland does leave Citeh, it will certainly be to a top 6 side. He's not as bad as you make out unless you also want to also dismiss Robinho as a Citeh reject. Much depends on the manager's tactics rather than the quality of the player. I still believe Ireland could do a great job for us.

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« Reply #1163 on: June 07, 2010, 10:57:54 AM »
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Quote from: "Dave"
Quote from: "pablopicasso_10"
have to laugh at the media agendas...

"Trying to sell as many newspapers as possible"?

What other agenda do you think there might be?


I reckon in this instance they are acting on a leak from Man City or an agent involved on their behalf and by wording it in a way that keeps them happy they can gurantee themsleves more stories from the same source.

So "reporting something they have been told to try and sell more newspapers"?

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« Reply #1164 on: June 07, 2010, 11:00:12 AM »
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Quote from: "boboonthecorner"
Quote from: "Mark Kelly"
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Quote from: "Mark Kelly"
I'm still waiting for us to put a bid in for Ireland. It's the type of signing that may go some way to convince James we're heading in the right direction and no just looking to stand still. A change of heart as to how we approach the Europa League may also help. I guess all top players want to test themselves against foreign opposition, whether it be by playing for their country or European competitions. It would also give us some valueable experience should we one day actually qualify for the Champions League, rather than go in there as European virgins.


Yep, I'd be really impressed. Signing a player that can't get into the Man City first team???

Irelands a decent player but thats it. Ability wise he's better than some of our midfielders but why on Earth would Milner think 'Wow, Villa really mean business signing one of Citys reserves'

Whilst the jury may still be out on just how good Ireland is, he'd certainly be a good addition of our squad and the type of player that can change a game in an instant. Steve Sidwell he ain't.


I agree, but your point is it will signal our intent to Milner, which it would and I don't think he'd be too impressed. Not when the team who are bidding for you are rumoured to be close to signing Edin Dzeko, Yaya Toure amongst others.

Citeh are rumoured to be interested in every decent player. Mancini has today come out and said he's surprised at the number of players they've been linked with as he's only looking to make a couple of additions to their squad.

If Ireland does leave Citeh, it will certainly be to a top 6 side. He's not as bad as you make out unless you also want to also dismiss Robinho as a Citeh reject. Much depends on the manager's tactics rather than the quality of the player. I still believe Ireland could do a great job for us.


You're getting me wrong I rate Ireland. I think he'd do a good job for us I just don't think he would be anywhere near enough to make Milner think that Villa are really going places.

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« Reply #1165 on: June 07, 2010, 11:00:15 AM »
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The £30 million is a made up figure.

The trouble with the Citeh money is that it's making money almost valueless so 'even' £30 million looks low.

I'd much rather see us take SWP, Ireland and Bellamy plus £10 million which we could then add to our kitty and spend some more quality.

I guess we're a bit like Everton were when they had Rooney on their hands at the moment and as long we cash in on JM in our favour at least we can use  the opportunity to improve the whole team team .... imo

PS. I base this on the fact that MIlner hasn't committed himself to us and as such am thinking that he is listening to those offers with interest.


IF we do value Milner at £30m then I'm sure City will equate your deal at around the £40m mark......



Maybe, but what's another £10 million to them ?

Screw the bastards !

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« Reply #1166 on: June 07, 2010, 11:03:02 AM »
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Quote from: "boboonthecorner"
Quote from: "TimTheVillain"
The £30 million is a made up figure.

The trouble with the Citeh money is that it's making money almost valueless so 'even' £30 million looks low.

I'd much rather see us take SWP, Ireland and Bellamy plus £10 million which we could then add to our kitty and spend some more quality.

I guess we're a bit like Everton were when they had Rooney on their hands at the moment and as long we cash in on JM in our favour at least we can use  the opportunity to improve the whole team team .... imo

PS. I base this on the fact that MIlner hasn't committed himself to us and as such am thinking that he is listening to those offers with interest.


IF we do value Milner at £30m then I'm sure City will equate your deal at around the £40m mark......



Maybe, but what's another £10 million to them ?

Screw the bastards !


I think if we don't want to sell then we should be compensated if Milner really wants the deal to go ahead. The only problem with this situation then is that every team we deal with is going to expect extra.......

It probably looks like I'm arguing for the sake of it, I'm not I promise.

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« Reply #1167 on: June 07, 2010, 11:08:13 AM »
Re us looking wealthy from the JM proceeds --- hence the incoming of 3 class players from Citeh as opposed to a wad of money for MON to waste.

It's not rocket science.

They ( Citeh ) desperately want Milner and have seemingly a bottomless pit of dosh.

It's an opportunity to rape them.

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« Reply #1168 on: June 07, 2010, 11:08:30 AM »
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Get it through your thick skulls - WE DON'T WANT TO SELL HIM!!!


I think that reads to me that we will be happy to sell him if they match our valuation.


If that's the way you read it fair enough, but I think a truer reflection of the actual position would be "We are reluctantly prepared to sell if they meet our valuation and the player wants to go."

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« Reply #1169 on: June 07, 2010, 11:11:34 AM »
Let's not forget Randy has said that Milner is going nowhere. Much will depend on whether Milner actually wants to stay. Obviously his agent will try and push for the move, Citeh are interested but in the end it's Milner's decision.

 


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