The Milner Novela... Final episode page 296

[KevinGage]

 
to be honest, if i was in there shoes, and looking to spend big on players, i wouldnt be buying Milner at 25 mill, i can think of a whole host of players i would rather have

I agree john.

But part of their motivation is to scupper a rival.
As per Liverpool with Keane and the Barry interest, and Citeh themselves last year with Lescott and Barry.

It's not just taking players to improve their squad, they've got that much money that they can afford to bench a few of that lot should they so wish. Better on their bench or in the stands than performing well at clubs around them, they might reason.

Fcuk 'em.

If that's their approach lets sting them for all we can. If enough clubs do it and -if after a while- the Arabs have seen no tangible evidence of success, they might decide to get another hobby. Go and kill baseball or summat.

There must be a limit even for those cants as to how often they're  prepared to get burned financially. With Garry Cook, Brian Marwood and Spoonface as their wise counsel, it could get a lot worse before it gets better.

[john e]

 
to be honest, if i was in there shoes, and looking to spend big on players, i wouldnt be buying Milner at 25 mill, i can think of a whole host of players i would rather have

I agree john.

But part of their motivation is to scupper a rival.
As per Liverpool with Keane and the Barry interest, and Citeh themselves last year with Lescott and Barry.

It's not just taking players to improve their squad, they've got that much money that they can afford to bench a few of that lot should they so wish. Better on their bench or in the stands than performing well at clubs around them, they might reason.

Fcuk 'em.

If that's their approach lets sting them for all we can. If enough clubs do it and -if after a while- the Arabs have seen no tangible evidence of success, they might decide to get another hobby. Go and kill baseball or summat.

There must be a limit even for those cants as to how often they're  prepared to get burned financially. With Garry Cook, Brian Marwood and Spoonface as their wise counsel, it could get a lot worse before it gets better.

i think we both agree about Milner and his worth.

the only difference is that you think we can rinse a good bag of money out of Man City cus they will pay whatever we ask, look at Lescot etc,

whereas i think it might prove a little more difficult to get anything more than 23 mill out of them.

we will just have to wait and see how it plays out

[sid1964]

I would expect the deal to be done once Milner returns from his hols.

At no point has Milner said he does not want to go and from what I have heard he does want to go! so I think in the best interests of both Villa and Milner the deal will be done.

Would not be suprised if we recieved say £20m and Onunuha (not sure if spelled this correctly)

Just hope that the money is spent wisely! and not on players who just want to build up there pension pot.

[badluckeric(gates)]

Why should we take less than the money they paid for Lescott last summer? They paid £24 million for him and he was nothing more than decent for Everton.

Milner is the current young player of the year and is probably one of the few England players to return from the world cup with any plaudits.

We are the current contract owners of the player and they have loads of money and have proven in the past they will pay through the nose. Tough if they think they can get him on the cheap for them, if it was Man United or Chelsea coming in for him then maybe he would go for £23 million or whatever, but Man City have got history now of paying top dollar. So why not get what we can for him.

and what if they dont, and Milner puts in a transfer request ?,
 we think we can replace Milner with 25 mill with money to spare,

so can they, just buy someone else

to be honest, if i was in there shoes, and looking to spend big on players, i wouldnt be buying Milner at 25 mill, i can think of a whole host of players i would rather have

1. young player of the year
2.International
3. British-and in the next few years that will be important.

[john e]

Why should we take less than the money they paid for Lescott last summer? They paid £24 million for him and he was nothing more than decent for Everton.

Milner is the current young player of the year and is probably one of the few England players to return from the world cup with any plaudits.

We are the current contract owners of the player and they have loads of money and have proven in the past they will pay through the nose. Tough if they think they can get him on the cheap for them, if it was Man United or Chelsea coming in for him then maybe he would go for £23 million or whatever, but Man City have got history now of paying top dollar. So why not get what we can for him.

and what if they dont, and Milner puts in a transfer request ?,
 we think we can replace Milner with 25 mill with money to spare,

so can they, just buy someone else

to be honest, if i was in there shoes, and looking to spend big on players, i wouldnt be buying Milner at 25 mill, i can think of a whole host of players i would rather have

1. young player of the year
2.International
3. British-and in the next few years that will be important.

you convinced me,
 maybe we should try and push them up to 35 mill then ?

[pmk1981]

as i said ages ago and i am still saying now,  james milner isnt going anywhere !!

he is one of them old school players who enjoys his football and enjoys a challenge.  he doesnt seem like the type of player that would go anywhere for stupid money  and finally he is a clever lad and he as well as everyone else can see man city are just throwning money about left right and centre (TWO HUNDERED THOUSAND POUNDS A WEEK on tore, LOL)
He knows it will be a massive struggle to get into the team due to all the similary type players they are buying and he doesnt want to be in a rotation system and next season when man city dont qualify 4th again due to all the big time chariles they have in their team they will get bored with what they have and go and spend stupid money on someone else and will probably end up paying 500k a week for someone.

and another thing , if i was a man city player i would be rather pi$$ed off if someone who was doing the same job as me was on over 100k mor ethan me a week !!

anyone agree ?

[Concrete John]

But part of their motivation is to scupper a rival.
As per Liverpool with Keane and the Barry interest, and Citeh themselves last year with Lescott and Barry.

It's not just taking players to improve their squad, they've got that much money that they can afford to bench a few of that lot should they so wish. Better on their bench or in the stands than performing well at clubs around them, they might reason.

I'm not syre that really falls into their thinking.  You could argue that losing Gabby would hurt us more, so why not target him?  And selling us Dunne wouldn't be the best idea if they're trying to weaken us.  We all agree that selling Milner for £20m + Ireland would improve us, so surely that works against the theory as well?

They have enough money to get who they want, so they can go out and buy better players than we have in every position without needing to nobble us first.

[JUAN PABLO]

pMK1981 -- sorry mate..  but Jimmy wants to go. Expect it to be done when he gets back from his hols.. when I get any news I will post what I know..

[Concrete John]

I know it's been touched on already, but what impact would moving to Man City have on Milner's international career?

I can see England going through a transitional period for the next couple of years, with lots of players at and approaching 30 being phased out, which would include Lampard and Gerrard.  Jimmy is the natural (and only?) player in that mould coming through, so has a great opportunity to get in at the groundfloor of a new look England.  Now, would that be jeopardised by being at a club where he'll be in and out of the side and played in different positions?

Were he to stay with us, he'd be playing week in week out in central midfield in a top 6 side, giving every opportunity to cement himself there for England.  Then, presuming he does that, he could move in a year or two for probably even more money and go there as a true superstar, so less likely to be rotated in and out.  He may want to go as others have said, but thinking longterm he might just want to 'complete his apprenticeship' here first and then make his move as the finished article.

And i wonder if Capello has had a word in his ear along those lines??

[JUAN PABLO]

I agree John M , and hopefully with Jimmys holiday and time to reflect he might change his mind, I will soon find out .  But before he on hols went he wanted to go .

[JUAN PABLO]

And i wonder if Capello has had a word in his ear along those lines??

Can he speak Yorkshire , he cant even speak English ...

[Concrete John]

I agree John M , and hopefully with Jimmys holiday and time to reflect he might change his mind, I will soon find out .  But before he on hols went he wanted to go .

And I'm sure he still does, but part of being professional is sometimes not doing the things you want to do for the benefit of your career.

[Pete3206]

Get as much cash as possible for Milner + Ireland.

Then test West Ham's resolve on Scott Parker.

2 better midfield players than James Milner.

[Des Little]

Get as much cash as possible for Milner + Ireland.

Then test West Ham's resolve on Scott Parker.

2 better midfield players than James Milner.

Is the right answer.  Not sure about the last bit about them being better but they'd be great additions

[Risso]

Get as much cash as possible for Milner + Ireland.

I agree, and quickly, before they realise he isn't THAT good.