New Kit 2010 / 11 ?

[KONSPIRACY]

They give me a shirt. I give them my money.
Thats how transactions work Dave.

It's this "They'll get my money anyway" bit I don't understand. Do you feel you have to give it to them?

Nope. I just need a new shirt and I'm happy to buy one if I like the design.
My mrs bought me a Villa tshirt for Xmas but I didnt like it so we took it back to the Villa shop and got a refund. I dont buy things if I dont like them and I cant afford to just throw away my money. As I said above, everyone has a choice, and if I want to buy a shirt for whatever reason (playing football or leisure) and I like the design, then I will buy it if I can afford to.

The only part that I may "feel you have to give it to them" is when it comes to buying the shirt itself from a sports shop or direct from the Villa...I'd buy it from the Villa every time even if it cost a few quid more.

[dave.woodhall]

The only part that I may "feel you have to give it to them" is when it comes to buying the shirt itself from a sports shop or direct from the Villa...I'd buy it from the Villa every time even if it cost a few quid more.

That's what I don't understand. Why would you rather hand over more money? Do the Viila really need your extra £5?

[LeeB]

Whatever it's like I can pretty much guarantee it will be better that Tamworth's new kit.

I think we are switching sports to Rugby League:

Looks like you don't need to buy it Dave, just cut along the dotted lines.

[Deano's Mullet]

Admiral made some classic kits. The England one of the late 70s early 80s was great.

[KONSPIRACY]

The only part that I may "feel you have to give it to them" is when it comes to buying the shirt itself from a sports shop or direct from the Villa...I'd buy it from the Villa every time even if it cost a few quid more.

That's what I don't understand. Why would you rather hand over more money? Do the Viila really need your extra £5?

Its not just the extra £5 though is it. I may be wrong, but I've always believed that if you buy from a high street sports shop then the club doesnt benefit from the purchase (hence one of the reasons why Villa shirts arent stocked everywhere in the country), where as if I buy from the club then a fair percentage of the money goes direct to Villa rather than profit for the high street sports shop. Like I said, I may be completely wrong but buying Villa merch direct from Villa makes the purchases feel more "safe". The club obviously dont need my £5, but the real effect would be felt if they lost say 100,000 £5s. Like I say, I could be completely and utterly wrong.

[bob]

The only part that I may "feel you have to give it to them" is when it comes to buying the shirt itself from a sports shop or direct from the Villa...I'd buy it from the Villa every time even if it cost a few quid more.

That's what I don't understand. Why would you rather hand over more money? Do the Viila really need your extra £5?

Its not just the extra £5 though is it. I may be wrong, but I've always believed that if you buy from a high street sports shop then the club doesnt benefit from the purchase (hence one of the reasons why Villa shirts arent stocked everywhere in the country), where as if I buy from the club then a fair percentage of the money goes direct to Villa rather than profit for the high street sports shop. Like I said, I may be completely wrong but buying Villa merch direct from Villa makes the purchases feel more "safe". The club obviously dont need my £5, but the real effect would be felt if they lost say 100,000 £5s. Like I say, I could be completely and utterly wrong.

Makes sense to me.

[dave.woodhall]

Fine. Keep handing your spare cash over to a load of multi-millionaires; I'm sure they appreciate it.

[DB]

Or he can go to JJB and hand it to the likes of Dave Whelan*

*Yes, I know he has stepped down and they only sell Sky 4 anyway, but you get my point.

If you want a top, then buying from the Villa is the better option.

[dave.woodhall]

Or he can go to JJB and hand it to the likes of Dave Whelan*

*Yes, I know he has stepped down and they only sell Sky 4 anyway, but you get my point.

If you want a top, then buying from the Villa is the better option.

Or you can buy it from the cheapest place possible and - here's a  novel idea - keep more of your own money.

[Dave Cooper please]

Or he can go to JJB and hand it to the likes of Dave Whelan*

*Yes, I know he has stepped down and they only sell Sky 4 anyway, but you get my point.

If you want a top, then buying from the Villa is the better option.

This is exactly why football clubs are so different from any other business.
If you wanted a tin of Heinz Beans and Asda were selling them 10p cheaper, would you go to Tesco because you support them and would rather pay more if it meant Tesco getting your money?

I can't think of another business that, no matter how they treat their customers (and I am in NO way saying that Villa treat their customers badly by the way!), they keep coming back and shelling out more and more cash.

[Chris Smith]

Or he can go to JJB and hand it to the likes of Dave Whelan*

*Yes, I know he has stepped down and they only sell Sky 4 anyway, but you get my point.

If you want a top, then buying from the Villa is the better option.

This is exactly why football clubs are so different from any other business.
If you wanted a tin of Heinz Beans and Asda were selling them 10p cheaper, would you go to Tesco because you support them and would rather pay more if it meant Tesco getting your money?

I can't think of another business that, no matter how they treat their customers (and I am in NO way saying that Villa treat their customers badly by the way!), they keep coming back and shelling out more and more cash.

Do you think that it might be because people think of themselves as fans not customers? That they understand that commercial success is important to the club and that merchandising is an important aspect of that? So by spending money at the club shop they feel that are helping the team that they support?

[PaulTheVillan]

I've got my last few shirts from Sports Direct. They were cheaper.

Credit Crunch and all that...

[Mazrim]

Well, fans naturally assume that the more money you spend at your club, the more money the club has to spend on players and such like. Why give it to Whelan or Ashley just to save a couple of quid when you can give it to Villa? Maybe thats how they see it? Right or wrong.

[Astral Weeks]

Or he can go to JJB and hand it to the likes of Dave Whelan*

*Yes, I know he has stepped down and they only sell Sky 4 anyway, but you get my point.

If you want a top, then buying from the Villa is the better option.

This is exactly why football clubs are so different from any other business.
If you wanted a tin of Heinz Beans and Asda were selling them 10p cheaper, would you go to Tesco because you support them and would rather pay more if it meant Tesco getting your money?

I can't think of another business that, no matter how they treat their customers (and I am in NO way saying that Villa treat their customers badly by the way!), they keep coming back and shelling out more and more cash.

Do you think that it might be because people think of themselves as fans not customers? That they understand that commercial success is important to the club and that merchandising is an important aspect of that? So by spending money at the club shop they feel that are helping the team that they support?

I think that's exactly what it is. Which is precisely why clubs exploit fans' loyalty and treat them as a cash cow to be milked shamelessly. New kit every single season? Why is that necessary?

And, like Dave, I'm not suggesting Villa are any more culpable in this than anyone else.

[Smithy]

Or he can go to JJB and hand it to the likes of Dave Whelan*

*Yes, I know he has stepped down and they only sell Sky 4 anyway, but you get my point.

If you want a top, then buying from the Villa is the better option.

This is exactly why football clubs are so different from any other business.
If you wanted a tin of Heinz Beans and Asda were selling them 10p cheaper, would you go to Tesco because you support them and would rather pay more if it meant Tesco getting your money?

I can't think of another business that, no matter how they treat their customers (and I am in NO way saying that Villa treat their customers badly by the way!), they keep coming back and shelling out more and more cash.

I would if Tesco making more money than anyone else was something I took great pride in, and meant I got to enjoy my weekend that much more.