Clubs in trouble

[AV82EC]

I went to a Wrexham v Chester derby game and the hatred was tangible. Only 6000 in the ground as well.

I believe Chesters original ground lay partly in Wales as well as England which was why they used to play in the Welsh cup many many years ago.

Shame they've gone but I believe there will be a phoenix club set up shortly. Perhaps they'll be called Chester 2010!

No its the current ground thats partly straddling the border.

I don't think they're alone in having played historically in the Welsh Cup, I think those other border towns, Hereford and Shrewsbury have as well.

Yep definitely a phoenix club on the horizon.  Unibond or West Cheshire though?

[dave.woodhall]

Chester supporters have been waiting to start up a new club for months. Bottom division of the Unibond next season I would guess.

[Bosco81]

I went to a Wrexham v Chester derby game and the hatred was tangible. Only 6000 in the ground as well.

I believe Chesters original ground lay partly in Wales as well as England which was why they used to play in the Welsh cup many many years ago.

Shame they've gone but I believe there will be a phoenix club set up shortly. Perhaps they'll be called Chester 2010!

No its the current ground thats partly straddling the border.

I don't think they're alone in having played historically in the Welsh Cup, I think those other border towns, Hereford and Shrewsbury have as well.

Yep definitely a phoenix club on the horizon.  Unibond or West Cheshire though?

Worcester City used to be in the Welsh Cup as well not sure how they qualified

[dave.woodhall]

Hednesford used to be in it as well. It was basically open to anyone who wanted.

[Chico Hamilton III]

Hednesford used to be in it as well. It was basically open to anyone who wanted.

but only Welsh winners could qualify for the UEFA Cup.

I think?

[PeterWithe]

Tranmere & Crewe have both won the Welsh Cup as well.

[Guy M]

I know I pretty much said the same a page ago, but the whole Portsmouth situation really pisses me off.

I foolishly turned on SSN briefly yesterday to see their former Assistant Manager of the ticket office, laid off after 9 years, just one of 83 people to lose their jobs.

Realistically, how much difference is losing a few people from the frontline services really going to effect how much money the club is losing or the way it runs? Why should football creditors be guaranteed what they're owed and why shouldn't the players be taking enforced wage cuts too?

Anyone who's half-decent will be off (probably to Spuds) in the summer anyway, but it really annoys me that the £25k per year they probably save by making this woman redundant could almost certainly be off-set by slashing 10% off the weekly football wage bill. And then some.

Good on SSN for not dwelling on her misery and getting back to promoting the 10+ matches they're showing this and next week tho. I hope they fcuking paid her.

[cheltenhamlion]

I believe that only two players offered to take a salary cut. I bet my boots one was David James.

[Bosco81]

Most of Pompey problems would be solved if Gail Platt off Corrie took John Utaka out on a boat only for him to mysteriously vanish.

[fred_zeppelin]

It's times like this that make me glad to support a stable club

[Guy M]

I believe that only two players offered to take a salary cut. I bet my boots one was David James.

David James may possibly have been one, seeing as he already agreed to waive the clause in his contract that should have seen him automatically be offered a new contract once he had played a certain number of games (and was almost certain to pass it this season), but I don't want them to offer to take a pay-cut. I want one to be enforced.

If they can sack 83 staff members, they can let a few footballers go too. It's not like they've been performing particularly well anyway.

[KONSPIRACY]

I foolishly turned on SSN briefly yesterday to see their former Assistant Manager of the ticket office, laid off after 9 years, just one of 83 people to lose their jobs.

Realistically, how much difference is losing a few people from the frontline services really going to effect how much money the club is losing or the way it runs? Why should football creditors be guaranteed what they're owed and why shouldn't the players be taking enforced wage cuts too?

Anyone who's half-decent will be off (probably to Spurs) in the summer anyway, but it really annoys me that the £25k per year they probably save by making this woman redundant could almost certainly be off-set by slashing 10% off the weekly football wage bill. And then some.

Yeah it was sickening especially when one of the ex-staff stated that his annual salary was equivalent to 3 days for one of the players. I'd imagine they would have slashed the wage bill by approx £2m with the job losses but doesnt excuse only 2 players volunteering a salary reduction considering the circumstances, but then I guess they would have had further problems with the PFA and FA if they tried to enforce player salary cuts, and its not as easy as it sounds to get rid of players when they have the protection of agents and contracts.

[dave.woodhall]

What a pity that the most powerful union in the country also has the most despicable members.

[ADVILLAFAN]

Hednesford used to be in it as well. It was basically open to anyone who wanted.

Stourbridge were runners-up once.

Here's all the English teams who've appeared in the final:-

Shrewsbury Town
Chester City (or should that be Phoenix?)
Telford United
Crewe Alexandra
Hereford United
Tranmere Rovers
Bristol City
South Liverpool
Kidderminster Harriers
Northwich Victoria
Hednesford Town

[sali,salifou]

I believe that only two players offered to take a salary cut. I bet my boots one was David James.

David James may possibly have been one, seeing as he already agreed to waive the clause in his contract that should have seen him automatically be offered a new contract once he had played a certain number of games (and was almost certain to pass it this season), but I don't want them to offer to take a pay-cut. I want one to be enforced.

If they can sack 83 staff members, they can let a few footballers go too. It's not like they've been performing particularly well anyway.

He didn't just offer a pay cut.....