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Author Topic: Small Heath: The gift that keeps on giving  (Read 3880611 times)

Offline Damo70

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Re: Small Heath: The gift that keeps on giving
« Reply #24975 on: January 18, 2021, 09:19:27 PM »
I've always considered us to be the more "Irish" of the two sides. Most of the old fellas I knew including my Dad followed Villa. Before my time we had a few notable Irish players and of course plenty during the 90's including the greatest of all. And we're all aware of our current Captain's background. I've never heard of anything like a ban or even anything remotely anti Irish at the rags though.

I can tell you one interesting story. A native of Co Roscommon, with close family ties to our club used to watch every Ireland international at the Irish Centre. That was until Daish, Morrison etc were playing for Small Heath a few 'noses started watching, he was driven away by their appalling behaviour and endless references to the Villa.

'Twas ever thus


I too have always thought there were far more Irish Villa fans than Irish noses both in Ireland and in England. Being of Irish descent myself  I know of a good number of Villa fans who are Irish or of Irish descent but I don't know a single nose who is Irish or of Irish descent.
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Re: Small Heath: The gift that keeps on giving
« Reply #24976 on: January 18, 2021, 09:23:22 PM »
I've met one Irish Nose here in thirty-five years and one deceased Brummie Nose. *

* A nice man.

Offline Damo70

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Re: Small Heath: The gift that keeps on giving
« Reply #24977 on: January 18, 2021, 09:29:34 PM »
Re Irish Villa fans outnumbering Irish noses, somebody once said to me "The Irish were all pointed in the right direction when they arrived in Birmingham".  ;)

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Re: Small Heath: The gift that keeps on giving
« Reply #24978 on: January 18, 2021, 09:58:22 PM »
Was in my local chippy tonight when i saw something i have not seen for ages  Some scruffy looking fecker in a nose shirt  One lucky win and they come crawling out of the woodwork 

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Re: Small Heath: The gift that keeps on giving
« Reply #24979 on: January 18, 2021, 10:10:49 PM »
I've always considered us to be the more "Irish" of the two sides. Most of the old fellas I knew including my Dad followed Villa. Before my time we had a few notable Irish players and of course plenty during the 90's including the greatest of all. And we're all aware of our current Captain's background. I've never heard of anything like a ban or even anything remotely anti Irish at the rags though.

I can tell you one interesting story. A native of Co Roscommon, with close family ties to our club used to watch every Ireland international at the Irish Centre. That was until Daish, Morrison etc were playing for Small Heath a few 'noses started watching, he was driven away by their appalling behaviour and endless references to the Villa.

'Twas ever thus


I too have always thought there were far more Irish Villa fans than Irish noses both in Ireland and in England. Being of Irish descent myself  I know of a good number of Villa fans who are Irish or of Irish descent but I don't know a single nose who is Irish or of Irish descent.

Well youd expect to pick up a following on back of McGrath than for Liam Daish or Kenny Cunningham

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Re: Small Heath: The gift that keeps on giving
« Reply #24980 on: January 18, 2021, 11:13:32 PM »
What's the support base like for us over in Ireland?

I remember going for a jolly boys weekend back in 2007 and saw loads of Villa shirts knocking about.

Offline Brazilian Villain

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Re: Small Heath: The gift that keeps on giving
« Reply #24981 on: January 18, 2021, 11:36:13 PM »
What's the support base like for us over in Ireland?

I remember going for a jolly boys weekend back in 2007 and saw loads of Villa shirts knocking about.

According to this article it's 2% of those who support a club.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/english-soccer/aston-villa-s-irish-brigade-tangled-up-in-claret-and-blue-1.4187772

So according to SHA it's about the same as in Birmingham.

Offline Damo70

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Re: Small Heath: The gift that keeps on giving
« Reply #24982 on: January 19, 2021, 11:37:43 AM »
I've always considered us to be the more "Irish" of the two sides. Most of the old fellas I knew including my Dad followed Villa. Before my time we had a few notable Irish players and of course plenty during the 90's including the greatest of all. And we're all aware of our current Captain's background. I've never heard of anything like a ban or even anything remotely anti Irish at the rags though.

I can tell you one interesting story. A native of Co Roscommon, with close family ties to our club used to watch every Ireland international at the Irish Centre. That was until Daish, Morrison etc were playing for Small Heath a few 'noses started watching, he was driven away by their appalling behaviour and endless references to the Villa.

'Twas ever thus


I too have always thought there were far more Irish Villa fans than Irish noses both in Ireland and in England. Being of Irish descent myself  I know of a good number of Villa fans who are Irish or of Irish descent but I don't know a single nose who is Irish or of Irish descent.

Well youd expect to pick up a following on back of McGrath than for Liam Daish or Kenny Cunningham


They tried to claim Dele Adebola was Irish at one point. A nose I drank with at the time got quite excited and thought the 'Dele Paddybola' nickname was hilarious. Little things amuse little minds.

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Re: Small Heath: The gift that keeps on giving
« Reply #24983 on: January 19, 2021, 11:40:59 AM »
They tried to claim Dele Adebola was Irish at one point. A nose I drank with at the time got quite excited and thought the 'Dele Paddybola' nickname was hilarious. Little things amuse little minds.

He probably thought Liam Daish was Iraqi as well.

Offline joniboy

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Re: Small Heath: The gift that keeps on giving
« Reply #24984 on: January 19, 2021, 12:08:51 PM »
My old man came over from Cork in the late fifties looking for work along with a few of his mates. He went to both Villa & sha but he said he was going to see the opposition - in those days it was the likes of blackpool, bolton, preston.

A lot of his mates, over from the old country were of the same attitude; having seen the likes of Finney, Mortensen, Matthews, Lofthouse et al in the local cinemas (newscasts), he now had the chance to see them in real life, hence him going to both.

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Re: Small Heath: The gift that keeps on giving
« Reply #24985 on: January 19, 2021, 01:50:33 PM »
They tried to claim Dele Adebola was Irish at one point. A nose I drank with at the time got quite excited and thought the 'Dele Paddybola' nickname was hilarious. Little things amuse little minds.

He probably thought Liam Daish was Iraqi as well.

And Trevor Francisis.

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Re: Small Heath: The gift that keeps on giving
« Reply #24986 on: January 19, 2021, 02:47:07 PM »
They tried to claim Dele Adebola was Irish at one point. A nose I drank with at the time got quite excited and thought the 'Dele Paddybola' nickname was hilarious. Little things amuse little minds.

He probably thought Liam Daish was Iraqi as well.

And Trevor Francisis.

And Lee Grvant.

Offline LukeJames

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Re: Small Heath: The gift that keeps on giving
« Reply #24987 on: January 19, 2021, 02:51:39 PM »
My old man came over from Cork in the late fifties looking for work along with a few of his mates. He went to both Villa & sha but he said he was going to see the opposition - in those days it was the likes of blackpool, bolton, preston.

First time I've heard this version of that song. Catchy tbf.

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Re: Small Heath: The gift that keeps on giving
« Reply #24988 on: January 19, 2021, 05:19:14 PM »
Have a look in here

You do realise I now have to get my laptop sanitised after this?

I've filtered that list to only include Irish players and sorted it by their birth date.
It's more fun than working


Owen Madden      Forward    05/12/1916
Jim Higgins      Forward    03/02/1926
Eddie O'Hara     Forward    22/02/1927
Eric Barber      Forward    18/01/1942
Tommy Carroll    Defender   18/08/1942
Don Givens       Forward    09/08/1949
Seamus McDonagh  Goalkeeper 06/10/1952
Gerry Daly       Midfielder 30/04/1954
Jim Hagan        Defender   10/10/1956
David Langan     Defender   15/02/1957
Paul Gorman      Defender   06/08/1963
John Sheridan    Midfielder 01/10/1964
Martin Russell   Midfielder 27/04/1967
Eamonn Dolan     Forward    20/09/1967
Liam Daish       Defender   23/07/1968
Alan Kelly       Goalkeeper 11/08/1968
Curtis Fleming   Defender   08/10/1968
Jeff Kenna       Defender   27/08/1970
Kenny Cunningham Defender   28/06/1971
Gary Breen       Defender   12/12/1973
Lee Carsley      Midfielder 28/02/1974
Steve Finnan     Defender   24/04/1976
Stephen Carr     Defender   29/08/1976
Clinton Morrison Forward    14/05/1979
Keith Fahey      Midfielder 15/01/1983
Stephen Kelly    Defender   06/09/1983
Colin Doyle      Goalkeeper 12/06/1985
Patrick Kavanagh Midfielder 29/12/1985
Gary Dicker      Midfielder 31/07/1986
Darren Randolph  Goalkeeper 12/05/1987
Adam Rooney      Forward    21/04/1988
Stephen Gleeson  Midfielder 03/08/1988
Jay OShea       Midfielder 10/08/1988
Cian Hughton     Defender   25/01/1989
Rob Kiernan      Defender   13/01/1991
Gavin Gunning    Defender   26/01/1991
Scott Hogan      Forward    13/04/1992
Callum Reilly    Midfielder 03/10/1993
Daniel Cleary    Defender   09/03/1996
Corey O'Keeffe   Defender   05/06/1998
Joe Redmond      Defender   23/01/2000
Ryan Burke       Defender   23/11/2000


I don't think that supports any Irish ban.

Offline Deano's Mullet

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Re: Small Heath: The gift that keeps on giving
« Reply #24989 on: January 19, 2021, 05:32:18 PM »
I love their Peaky Blinders thread. Apparently we tried to unsuccessfully make it our own by selling claret and blue peaked caps - I dont remember that - but they only managed to sell in Stafford, Evesham and Chaddesley Corbett ! Also if we did a version it would be set in Lichfield. Its just comedy gold. Imagine being proud that it apparently winds us up that it represents Blues and not Villa. Barring references to the crowd in the Garrison I dont think any Shelby mentions the Blues once.
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