I was working in Manchester 20 odd years ago when they scraped past Gillingham on penalties, Brian. All the Man City fans I knew then were decent, knowledgable sorts, even more put upon then we were in recent years. Now though, they make the average Man U daytripper look like the salt of the earth.
I have to endure the shame of a plastic manc in the family. I took my brother's grandson to his first ever football game at Villa Park with my own kids. Bought him his first Villa scarf. There he was on Facebook this morning crowing about being a glory hunting Citeh stalwart. Until he was sixteen he thought Manchester was a breed of terrier. Thick turncoat arsehole.
Money has ruined the game - plain and simple. I have been a Villa fan for nearly 50 years and been fortunate to see us win 2 league cups. I moved away from the midland around 30 years ago, so haven't had the chance to get to as many games - last Villa game I saw was in the Championship.This season I have been to around half a dozen Carlisle United games (where I now live) and have loved it. OK, you aren't going to get world class footballing skills but you get proper football where most of the time the better team wins. No VAR too. Most league two players earn good (but not stupid) money (around £40k - £60k PER YEAR). The players live in the area and you quite often see them shopping in the local supermarket.I hate the way that money has taken over the game. It's become a just another form of visual entertainment for the consumption of 'fans' worldwide. It's a homogenised product in a sterilised package.I urge everyone who is disillusioned with the PL to go and see a lower league game - for me it was like going back to my youth at Villa Park - standing on the terraces again - which I can at Carlisle. Plus it feels good that my £16 ticket money is not lining the pockets of millionaires.
Compare that lot yesterday with the Man City fans who carried a banner at Villa Park wishing us well in our pursuit of the title.
Quote from: brian green on May 23, 2022, 01:06:17 PMCompare that lot yesterday with the Man City fans who carried a banner at Villa Park wishing us well in our pursuit of the title.I think that's part of the problem. They think the world owes them a debt of gratitude for saving us from Manchester United.
See you in August.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on May 23, 2022, 01:17:31 PMQuote from: brian green on May 23, 2022, 01:06:17 PMCompare that lot yesterday with the Man City fans who carried a banner at Villa Park wishing us well in our pursuit of the title.I think that's part of the problem. They think the world owes them a debt of gratitude for saving us from Manchester United.That fucking banner showed them up for the no-mark, bitter twats they were/still are and in my mind, even as a youth at the time, marked them down as a nothing club to me.
Quote from: Drummond on May 23, 2022, 11:12:37 AMWe need to fucking win something, that will stop the glory hunters going elsewhere.I don't want those c unts anywhere near me. I'd rather be exactly what we are than change to come onto their radar.
We need to fucking win something, that will stop the glory hunters going elsewhere.