All eyes on the owners. I think Smith’s time is done tbh, it just might not be this week but I just can’t see him still being here at Christmas.

The next appointment will tell us everything we need to know about their ambitions.

there's no point in saying the manager needs to go if the model is now to finish midtable, develop players and sell them for a high profit because he is the perfect manager for that. Also, you can't sack a manager when you've not backed him and they haven't, the net spend was zero and teams above and around us invested. The time for that was last season.

I think they'll give it the next 4 games and see how we fit likes of Bailey in team now he's fit. Ultimately guys like him, Ings and Buendia cost 100m pretty much so think owners have a right to expect these guys to win us some games from time to time playing a logical system.

Purslow is DS biggest backer by all accounts so DS is done if he loses confidence so I'd say two wins from next 4 games is badly needed otherwise we'll be a far way off even 10th and that isn't acceptable for me.

Purslow is savvy enough to know he'll need to pot Dean if the owners start questioning his judgement. 

One of the unfortunate aspects of our recent history is that we had to go to the Championship to end up with these owners. It has meant that we have had to come from a very low base. If they had rocked up around 2011 or 2012 imagine how different things would have been. Liverpool finished below us in 2010, were bought by proper owners and are now unrecognisable.

Look at the Everton score now!! 😯

Well we are either 6 points from the bottom 3 or 6 points from the top 4, so it depends how you hold your glass

I think if the owners were really serious you would have seen more investment in the summer. Deano saying with 2 weeks left of the window that he was happy with what he had and after we’d just signed an Man Utd reserve on loan was that sudden realisation moment that we’re not going to be challenging at the very highest level, similar to the end of the summer in 2007 when Lerner had been there a year and we’d just signed Marlon Harewood and Scott Carson on loan, after thinking Lerner was going to have us challenging Chelsea and Man Utd. On the other hand maybe it was Smiths decision alone not to bring in more but I doubt it personally. What has compounded the situation is that Smith seems to have gone off on an inexplicable tangent with tactics and his back room staff have turned over so everything has been turned on its head in a bad way with a squad that should be mid table. On current form we won’t be much higher than the relegation zone unless things change dramatically and one of those considerations will be Smith himself.

Going back to the owners, as said, they didn’t really spend to get us promoted, we loaned, and between Grealish, McGinn, Mings and Smith himself we got up by the skin of our teeth. For me, since then money has been spent on a new squad because it had to be and then when we nearly went down more was spent again to protect the investment. Am I grateful to them, absolutely, it’s better than Lerner did in his last few years or what the bloke at the Albion has done for them but do I think we’ll be up there challenging for the CL? No I don’t.

I find the idea that the owners aren't serious or "haven't really spent" absolutely bewildering.