Quote from: The Edge on March 04, 2021, 05:49:21 PMQuote from: john e on March 04, 2021, 05:20:43 PMQuote from: The Edge on March 04, 2021, 05:02:50 PMQuote from: john e on March 04, 2021, 04:36:18 PMIt’s no good battering the door down in the last 10 minutesWe should have been doing that since the man got sent off and we were one nil downWhats a defensive midfielder not known for creating danger doing on the pitch in the 67th minute 67 minutes !why did we start him in the first place against Sheffield United (not jumping on the bandwagon I said this in the Nakamba thread before the game)I sell lorries for a living and even I know Luiz is twice the footballer Nakamba is He’s a class player Sheffield United would’ve been a good game for him to regain his confidenceIt’s pretty basic stuff reallySo basic it’s worrying really67 minutes ffsMarvellous was excellent against Leeds and earned his start last night. Luiz lost his place after some really poor performances. Marv repaid the managers faith in him with a poor performance. His ball distribution was awful at times. Deano has learned something. Marv is probably never going to cut it on a regular basis and Elmo is another one who proved the same point. It was his absolute brain fart that cost us at least a draw. They were galvanised by it and had something to defend which they did gallantly. Something they're excellent at which they've rarely had chance to prove this season. They got their noses in front at Old Trafford and held on to the points. It's what they're good at.Without Jack we lacked the guile and genuine star quality to break them down. We learn. We move on. We improve. That's the way it's going to be for some time. Once we get everyone back fit I fancy us for a barnstorming end to the season. He was excellent against LeedsBut he was there to do a specific job which he didSaying he earned his place in the next game is exactly the problemIt’s championship manager thinking it’s small timePlay The best players you have to fit your tactics against what ever opposition you faceSimple as thatYou'd soon end up with a very pissed off group of players if you adopted that stance. There has to be reward for players who play well for you or they'd soon get the attitude of "fuck it why should I bother?" You’ll also end up mid table with all your best players fucked off to teams who want to play at the highest levelwhile you end up with those who you’ve bent over backwards to not piss off
Quote from: john e on March 04, 2021, 05:20:43 PMQuote from: The Edge on March 04, 2021, 05:02:50 PMQuote from: john e on March 04, 2021, 04:36:18 PMIt’s no good battering the door down in the last 10 minutesWe should have been doing that since the man got sent off and we were one nil downWhats a defensive midfielder not known for creating danger doing on the pitch in the 67th minute 67 minutes !why did we start him in the first place against Sheffield United (not jumping on the bandwagon I said this in the Nakamba thread before the game)I sell lorries for a living and even I know Luiz is twice the footballer Nakamba is He’s a class player Sheffield United would’ve been a good game for him to regain his confidenceIt’s pretty basic stuff reallySo basic it’s worrying really67 minutes ffsMarvellous was excellent against Leeds and earned his start last night. Luiz lost his place after some really poor performances. Marv repaid the managers faith in him with a poor performance. His ball distribution was awful at times. Deano has learned something. Marv is probably never going to cut it on a regular basis and Elmo is another one who proved the same point. It was his absolute brain fart that cost us at least a draw. They were galvanised by it and had something to defend which they did gallantly. Something they're excellent at which they've rarely had chance to prove this season. They got their noses in front at Old Trafford and held on to the points. It's what they're good at.Without Jack we lacked the guile and genuine star quality to break them down. We learn. We move on. We improve. That's the way it's going to be for some time. Once we get everyone back fit I fancy us for a barnstorming end to the season. He was excellent against LeedsBut he was there to do a specific job which he didSaying he earned his place in the next game is exactly the problemIt’s championship manager thinking it’s small timePlay The best players you have to fit your tactics against what ever opposition you faceSimple as thatYou'd soon end up with a very pissed off group of players if you adopted that stance. There has to be reward for players who play well for you or they'd soon get the attitude of "fuck it why should I bother?"
Quote from: The Edge on March 04, 2021, 05:02:50 PMQuote from: john e on March 04, 2021, 04:36:18 PMIt’s no good battering the door down in the last 10 minutesWe should have been doing that since the man got sent off and we were one nil downWhats a defensive midfielder not known for creating danger doing on the pitch in the 67th minute 67 minutes !why did we start him in the first place against Sheffield United (not jumping on the bandwagon I said this in the Nakamba thread before the game)I sell lorries for a living and even I know Luiz is twice the footballer Nakamba is He’s a class player Sheffield United would’ve been a good game for him to regain his confidenceIt’s pretty basic stuff reallySo basic it’s worrying really67 minutes ffsMarvellous was excellent against Leeds and earned his start last night. Luiz lost his place after some really poor performances. Marv repaid the managers faith in him with a poor performance. His ball distribution was awful at times. Deano has learned something. Marv is probably never going to cut it on a regular basis and Elmo is another one who proved the same point. It was his absolute brain fart that cost us at least a draw. They were galvanised by it and had something to defend which they did gallantly. Something they're excellent at which they've rarely had chance to prove this season. They got their noses in front at Old Trafford and held on to the points. It's what they're good at.Without Jack we lacked the guile and genuine star quality to break them down. We learn. We move on. We improve. That's the way it's going to be for some time. Once we get everyone back fit I fancy us for a barnstorming end to the season. He was excellent against LeedsBut he was there to do a specific job which he didSaying he earned his place in the next game is exactly the problemIt’s championship manager thinking it’s small timePlay The best players you have to fit your tactics against what ever opposition you faceSimple as that
Quote from: john e on March 04, 2021, 04:36:18 PMIt’s no good battering the door down in the last 10 minutesWe should have been doing that since the man got sent off and we were one nil downWhats a defensive midfielder not known for creating danger doing on the pitch in the 67th minute 67 minutes !why did we start him in the first place against Sheffield United (not jumping on the bandwagon I said this in the Nakamba thread before the game)I sell lorries for a living and even I know Luiz is twice the footballer Nakamba is He’s a class player Sheffield United would’ve been a good game for him to regain his confidenceIt’s pretty basic stuff reallySo basic it’s worrying really67 minutes ffsMarvellous was excellent against Leeds and earned his start last night. Luiz lost his place after some really poor performances. Marv repaid the managers faith in him with a poor performance. His ball distribution was awful at times. Deano has learned something. Marv is probably never going to cut it on a regular basis and Elmo is another one who proved the same point. It was his absolute brain fart that cost us at least a draw. They were galvanised by it and had something to defend which they did gallantly. Something they're excellent at which they've rarely had chance to prove this season. They got their noses in front at Old Trafford and held on to the points. It's what they're good at.Without Jack we lacked the guile and genuine star quality to break them down. We learn. We move on. We improve. That's the way it's going to be for some time. Once we get everyone back fit I fancy us for a barnstorming end to the season.
It’s no good battering the door down in the last 10 minutesWe should have been doing that since the man got sent off and we were one nil downWhats a defensive midfielder not known for creating danger doing on the pitch in the 67th minute 67 minutes !why did we start him in the first place against Sheffield United (not jumping on the bandwagon I said this in the Nakamba thread before the game)I sell lorries for a living and even I know Luiz is twice the footballer Nakamba is He’s a class player Sheffield United would’ve been a good game for him to regain his confidenceIt’s pretty basic stuff reallySo basic it’s worrying really67 minutes ffs
I didn't have too much of a problem with Nakamba starting or staying on personally as long as he did. I didn't really see the point in bringing Sanson on for him. That sub could have been used for Trez. I thought that was needed more.
Quote from: john e on March 04, 2021, 07:07:00 PMQuote from: JuanMartinez on March 04, 2021, 06:59:19 PMI think what’s he’s trying to say is that for example, Luiz is a better all round player In that role that Marvellous, however as Marvellous had a good game at Leeds that the “in form” player will always get the nod.I personally don’t think that theory has been applied consistently this season by DS.whether he was right to start him or not the fact is he was still on the pitch in the 67th minute when they were down to 10 men and we were one nil behindExplain that one67th minute Dean Smith's subs nearly always follow the same blueprint, no matter the actual situation on the pitch.
Quote from: JuanMartinez on March 04, 2021, 06:59:19 PMI think what’s he’s trying to say is that for example, Luiz is a better all round player In that role that Marvellous, however as Marvellous had a good game at Leeds that the “in form” player will always get the nod.I personally don’t think that theory has been applied consistently this season by DS.whether he was right to start him or not the fact is he was still on the pitch in the 67th minute when they were down to 10 men and we were one nil behindExplain that one67th minute
I think what’s he’s trying to say is that for example, Luiz is a better all round player In that role that Marvellous, however as Marvellous had a good game at Leeds that the “in form” player will always get the nod.I personally don’t think that theory has been applied consistently this season by DS.
One thing we desperately need is tenacity when we concede first. I think we have gained one point all season after falling behind. That is not good enough, and implies some fragility. I am extremely happy with our progress this season but the ability to eke out a result when not playing well would probably have seen us gain an extra half dozen points.