Quote from: AV82EC on January 26, 2021, 04:34:59 PMQuote from: ChicagoLion on January 26, 2021, 04:17:01 PMIf you take the top 10 not including us, we have won 3 lost 4 and drawn 1 with 2 still to play.We will need to significantly improve on this to be any where near.I dread the Europa League.Not having a go here Chicago but why do people fear the Europa League, its two extra matches (one round) if you get to the final? It means a Thursday/Sunday as opposed to Sat/Tue or Weds schedule for parts of the season but I'm struggling to see why that matters. I think it is prettty worthless . It seems to ruin most English teams season, so if you are attempting top 4 then find your self in a long run in this competition its very difficult to do and gain 4th place. I would rather we went for the CL and forget about the EL and if we enter use it for squad players.
Quote from: ChicagoLion on January 26, 2021, 04:17:01 PMIf you take the top 10 not including us, we have won 3 lost 4 and drawn 1 with 2 still to play.We will need to significantly improve on this to be any where near.I dread the Europa League.Not having a go here Chicago but why do people fear the Europa League, its two extra matches (one round) if you get to the final? It means a Thursday/Sunday as opposed to Sat/Tue or Weds schedule for parts of the season but I'm struggling to see why that matters.
If you take the top 10 not including us, we have won 3 lost 4 and drawn 1 with 2 still to play.We will need to significantly improve on this to be any where near.I dread the Europa League.
Quote from: ChicagoLion on January 26, 2021, 04:54:25 PMQuote from: AV82EC on January 26, 2021, 04:34:59 PMQuote from: ChicagoLion on January 26, 2021, 04:17:01 PMIf you take the top 10 not including us, we have won 3 lost 4 and drawn 1 with 2 still to play.We will need to significantly improve on this to be any where near.I dread the Europa League.Not having a go here Chicago but why do people fear the Europa League, its two extra matches (one round) if you get to the final? It means a Thursday/Sunday as opposed to Sat/Tue or Weds schedule for parts of the season but I'm struggling to see why that matters. I think it is prettty worthless . It seems to ruin most English teams season, so if you are attempting top 4 then find your self in a long run in this competition its very difficult to do and gain 4th place. I would rather we went for the CL and forget about the EL and if we enter use it for squad players.Leicester City doing ok and in Europa Man Utd finished 3rd last season got to semis Wolves 7th got to quarters Chelsea season 2018-19 finished 3rd won Europa So ....
Quote from: Footy-Vill on January 26, 2021, 07:00:05 PMQuote from: ChicagoLion on January 26, 2021, 04:54:25 PMQuote from: AV82EC on January 26, 2021, 04:34:59 PMQuote from: ChicagoLion on January 26, 2021, 04:17:01 PMIf you take the top 10 not including us, we have won 3 lost 4 and drawn 1 with 2 still to play.We will need to significantly improve on this to be any where near.I dread the Europa League.Not having a go here Chicago but why do people fear the Europa League, its two extra matches (one round) if you get to the final? It means a Thursday/Sunday as opposed to Sat/Tue or Weds schedule for parts of the season but I'm struggling to see why that matters. I think it is prettty worthless . It seems to ruin most English teams season, so if you are attempting top 4 then find your self in a long run in this competition its very difficult to do and gain 4th place. I would rather we went for the CL and forget about the EL and if we enter use it for squad players.Leicester City doing ok and in Europa Man Utd finished 3rd last season got to semis Wolves 7th got to quarters Chelsea season 2018-19 finished 3rd won Europa So ....I agree with this, the teams that see it as a chore are generally teams that don't have strong enough squads to consistently challenge for the top 6 anyway.
Quote from: paul_e on January 26, 2021, 07:35:59 PMQuote from: Footy-Vill on January 26, 2021, 07:00:05 PMQuote from: ChicagoLion on January 26, 2021, 04:54:25 PMQuote from: AV82EC on January 26, 2021, 04:34:59 PMQuote from: ChicagoLion on January 26, 2021, 04:17:01 PMIf you take the top 10 not including us, we have won 3 lost 4 and drawn 1 with 2 still to play.We will need to significantly improve on this to be any where near.I dread the Europa League.Not having a go here Chicago but why do people fear the Europa League, its two extra matches (one round) if you get to the final? It means a Thursday/Sunday as opposed to Sat/Tue or Weds schedule for parts of the season but I'm struggling to see why that matters. I think it is prettty worthless . It seems to ruin most English teams season, so if you are attempting top 4 then find your self in a long run in this competition its very difficult to do and gain 4th place. I would rather we went for the CL and forget about the EL and if we enter use it for squad players.Leicester City doing ok and in Europa Man Utd finished 3rd last season got to semis Wolves 7th got to quarters Chelsea season 2018-19 finished 3rd won Europa So ....I agree with this, the teams that see it as a chore are generally teams that don't have strong enough squads to consistently challenge for the top 6 anyway.there are plenty of other examples when it has had a detrimental effect , particularly teams that do not have squad depth.
I'm not sure how that disagrees with what I said, teams with a decent amount of squad depth (which we will have by the start of next season in my opinion) generally use it as a chance to rotate players and give the fringe players a decent amount of gametime, clubs that can't do that are the ones that suffer.All said I'd rather be in it than not finishing high enough in the league to qualify, in the same way I'd take a win in the FA cup and the place that comes from it without a thought.
The point of football is to win trophies. If we can rest players and still progress, so be it. But I would never want to see us surrender a European place like we did under O'Neill, and find it baffling that any Villa fan would turn their nose up at a decent chance of silverware after a quarter of a century without.
Quote from: cdbullyweefan on January 27, 2021, 01:40:58 AMThe point of football is to win trophies. If we can rest players and still progress, so be it. But I would never want to see us surrender a European place like we did under O'Neill, and find it baffling that any Villa fan would turn their nose up at a decent chance of silverware after a quarter of a century without.Absolutely this. I am still sore that we didn't manage a Uefa Cup win during the 1990s. Surely any Villa fan would want us in the Europa League? It's been far too long since we had big European games.
Quote from: Villan82 on January 27, 2021, 10:21:34 AMQuote from: cdbullyweefan on January 27, 2021, 01:40:58 AMThe point of football is to win trophies. If we can rest players and still progress, so be it. But I would never want to see us surrender a European place like we did under O'Neill, and find it baffling that any Villa fan would turn their nose up at a decent chance of silverware after a quarter of a century without.Absolutely this. I am still sore that we didn't manage a Uefa Cup win during the 1990s. Surely any Villa fan would want us in the Europa League? It's been far too long since we had big European games.I dont
I always think it's a bit odd that teams bust a gut to get into Europe and then throw in the towel. If we manage European qualification this season that can only be a good thing and a remarkable turnaround from last season.