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Offline sickbeggar

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #7545 on: September 22, 2020, 02:45:42 PM »
Didn't he player milner there at 1 point?
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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #7546 on: September 22, 2020, 02:47:08 PM »
It depends on the player. There have been specialist inverted full backs at all levels, and some of them (Philip Lahm) have been quite good really.
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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #7547 on: September 22, 2020, 02:49:17 PM »
Quote from: Russ aka Big Nose on September 22, 2020, 02:16:10 PM
It might not be a priority, but we do not get to do the deals we want, in the order we want and we should make intelligent - potentially unpopular - decisions when we get the chance (like moving to upgrade our keeper).

As algy says (above) we have to declare a PL squad of 25 and it would be daft to name three RBs. Cash will be one, Konsa will be in as a CB and can cover, so it is either Elmo or Guilbert.

I like Guilbert but if we get a good offer for him, sentiment aside, for our progress over the next year or two it makes sense to sell and reinvest in a player that improves the starting 11.

Whether we like our current LBs is irrelevant unless you think playing Guilbert or Elmo there is a better option than buying a decent LB (which I don't).

Picking fullbacks to play on their 'wrong' side is (to me) a marker for being a poor manager - reference Bruce and Southgate.

Hang on, why is picking a full back to play full back a marker for a poor manager but picking a centre back to play full back isn't?
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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #7548 on: September 22, 2020, 02:50:23 PM »
Quote from: Monty on September 22, 2020, 02:47:08 PM
It depends on the player. There have been specialist inverted full backs at all levels, and some of them (Philip Lahm) have been quite good really.

Paolo Maldini was actually right footed as a kid but put the hours in to develop his left foot.
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Offline Russ aka Big Nose

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #7549 on: September 22, 2020, 03:16:26 PM »
Quote from: Drummond on September 22, 2020, 02:49:17 PM
Quote from: Russ aka Big Nose on September 22, 2020, 02:16:10 PM
It might not be a priority, but we do not get to do the deals we want, in the order we want and we should make intelligent - potentially unpopular - decisions when we get the chance (like moving to upgrade our keeper).

As algy says (above) we have to declare a PL squad of 25 and it would be daft to name three RBs. Cash will be one, Konsa will be in as a CB and can cover, so it is either Elmo or Guilbert.

I like Guilbert but if we get a good offer for him, sentiment aside, for our progress over the next year or two it makes sense to sell and reinvest in a player that improves the starting 11.

Whether we like our current LBs is irrelevant unless you think playing Guilbert or Elmo there is a better option than buying a decent LB (which I don't).

Picking fullbacks to play on their 'wrong' side is (to me) a marker for being a poor manager - reference Bruce and Southgate.

Hang on, why is picking a full back to play full back a marker for a poor manager but picking a centre back to play full back isn't?
A CB as cover for two RBs in a squad of 25 would be an example of making a sensible decision when required by injuries or suspensions. A manager with options deciding to do that when announcing an England squad (Southtgate recently) or at Villa when successive transfer windows meant someone could be bought in are not the same thing.
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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #7550 on: September 22, 2020, 03:22:23 PM »
If ever there were a true twitter rumour, the Milner one doing the rounds would be my choice please. Even at 34. Would bring so much to us. Most unlikely, but it would be a brilliant addition.
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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #7551 on: September 22, 2020, 03:23:20 PM »
Quote from: ozzjim on September 22, 2020, 03:22:23 PM
If ever there were a true twitter rumour, the Milner one doing the rounds would be my choice please. Even at 34. Would bring so much to us. Most unlikely, but it would be a brilliant addition.
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Offline Damo70

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #7552 on: September 22, 2020, 03:28:59 PM »
Quote from: Russ aka Big Nose on September 22, 2020, 03:23:20 PM
Quote from: ozzjim on September 22, 2020, 03:22:23 PM
If ever there were a true twitter rumour, the Milner one doing the rounds would be my choice please. Even at 34. Would bring so much to us. Most unlikely, but it would be a brilliant addition.
This

I would take him for a year for his quality, experience and mentality. He is a winner.
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Offline sickbeggar

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #7553 on: September 22, 2020, 03:30:51 PM »
yep. would be worth another 8 points this season I reckon
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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #7554 on: September 22, 2020, 03:36:44 PM »
As much as I would love Milner back if he was available and at this stage in his career surely he’d be the ultimate PR signing for Leeds?

Would be a no brainer to get him back if could though
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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #7555 on: September 22, 2020, 03:41:10 PM »
Our squad and starting average age is now amongst the lowest. Milner is one individual, both as a player and leader that would hugely benefit us or any number of teams outside of the top sides for the next couple of years at least. He's in tremendous shape.
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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #7556 on: September 22, 2020, 03:44:37 PM »
At some point a players legs go, nothing that training or diet can do about it.
He is 34 and will not play at this level for much longer.
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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #7557 on: September 22, 2020, 03:50:40 PM »
I don't know, he can probably play another 2 years. After all, it often boils down to looking after your body/diet. Ryan Giggs,  Gareth Barry are prime examples. Ibrahimovic as well??
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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #7558 on: September 22, 2020, 04:00:24 PM »
Giggs was good enough to let the ball do his running for him, as well as having top six players in front and behind him.
Barry and Carrick both had excellent positioning off the ball, and could spray the ball about rather than expend lots of energy chasing the ball.

I like James Milner (a lot) but I think he'll age like milk once his energy levels drop.
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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #7559 on: September 22, 2020, 04:03:03 PM »
He wouldn't have to play every game. But starting him on occasion or bringing him in game would give us all immense confidence little would go wrong.
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