Quote from: Footy-Vill on August 24, 2021, 07:10:13 PM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58322829

Right decision in my opinion

At some point the 10 day isolation will have to end as its causing all kinds of chaos

So not a fan of vaccines, but also not a fan of trying to stop worse infections from getting in from countries out of control. If a 10 day isolation was in place earlier for India, Delta might have been controlled better for example.

Quote from: Somniloquism on August 25, 2021, 10:19:51 AM

Quote from: Demitri_C on August 25, 2021, 09:30:33 AM

Quote from: Footy-Vill on August 24, 2021, 07:10:13 PM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58322829

Right decision in my opinion

At some point the 10 day isolation will have to end as its causing all kinds of chaos

So not a fan of vaccines, but also not a fan of trying to stop worse infections from getting in from countries out of control. If a 10 day isolation was in place earlier for India, Delta might have been controlled better for example.

Ok you are aware i have had the vaccine?? So can we just put this nonsense to bed. Having a  different opinion of someone who hasnt been vaccinated to you i dont see what the problem is? I try look at all logically from both sides and i am not in favour of penalising non vaccinated. Its on them at the end of the day

As for the 10 day quarantine why did we all take the vaccines then if we have to isolate for 10 days? You dont think its causing chaos? People in important jobs police, doctors, nurses etc who have been vaccinated have to have a further 10 days off in a red country?

If we are so worried about variants we shouldnt have opened up travel in my view. Its causing massive issues and more fear among people.

It's on them for killing others. But there's no penalty. Brilliant.
We have to isolate because there's still a risk. (if you're in Health and Social Care there are new rules in place governing self-isolation when tests have been done)

Not sure what you mean about people being in a red country. But why wouldn't people have to isolate?

Fear among people who decide to travel and take the risk. The easy solution is for them not to travel, then there's no fear.

Stop digging.

Quote from: Demitri_C on August 25, 2021, 11:14:28 AM

Quote from: Somniloquism on August 25, 2021, 10:19:51 AM

Quote from: Demitri_C on August 25, 2021, 09:30:33 AM

Quote from: Footy-Vill on August 24, 2021, 07:10:13 PM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58322829

Right decision in my opinion

At some point the 10 day isolation will have to end as its causing all kinds of chaos

So not a fan of vaccines, but also not a fan of trying to stop worse infections from getting in from countries out of control. If a 10 day isolation was in place earlier for India, Delta might have been controlled better for example.

Ok you are aware i have had the vaccine?? So can we just put this nonsense to bed. Having a  different opinion of someone who hasnt been vaccinated to you i dont see what the problem is? I try look at all logically from both sides and i am not in favour of penalising non vaccinated. Its on them at the end of the day

As for the 10 day quarantine why did we all take the vaccines then if we have to isolate for 10 days? You dont think its causing chaos? People in important jobs police, doctors, nurses etc who have been vaccinated have to have a further 10 days off in a red country?

If we are so worried about variants we shouldnt have opened up travel in my view. Its causing massive issues and more fear among people.

It's on them for killing others. But there's no penalty. Brilliant.
We have to isolate because there's still a risk. (if you're in Health and Social Care there are new rules in place governing self-isolation when tests have been done)

Not sure what you mean about people being in a red country. But why wouldn't people have to isolate?

Fear among people who decide to travel and take the risk. The easy solution is for them not to travel, then there's no fear.

Stop digging.

Digging what?  Expressing an opinion is digging now?

I have explained why i think the isolation for 10 days is causing problems if you actually read my post .so no one should take a holiday on your view? Just like i said if you read my post travel should not have been opened up. Glad you agree with me.

And may i ask what sort of punishment you are proposing? Fine them jail time? Set them on fire ? If your banning them from doing things such a s games events etc thats punishment enough

My opinion is there there is such a divide between people now and its getting ugly. Also look at whats happening in cornwall the rates shot up. The likelyhood is most of the population is vaccinated people are probably (no factual evidence yet) is that alot of people may have got ill from other unvaccinated. If there was data showing us how many unvaccinated were going there id like to see the information.

Lets say non vaccinated people are banned from games like you guys want and people get ill from villa park. Who do we blame then?

You don't blame anyone. 

But you do have to accept that you need to take sensible precautions to reduce risks.

I think that is a fair point. But instead of calling everyone scumbags or anti vaxxers who hasnt had it we need to find out why they dont want the vaccine. Provide educating. Some may have had someone who took vaccine and was one of the unlucky ones that had adverse reaction to it. Some may be absolutely terrified.  Need to udnerstand why.

Calling a non vaccinated a scumbag (not you in general) is more likely to  make them not take it.

I am not sure about everyone else but did people think there was more less or the same in terms of people wearing masks?

For me i thought it was less than the newcastle game for where i was sitting.  Hopefully no one has tested positive 🤞

Don't think I saw a single mask in VP anywhere yesterday.

Hey, what's going on? I agree with Flin5tone.