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Offline Proposition Joe

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1500 on: February 14, 2020, 08:54:16 AM »
Looking at the fixtures, I think we'll end up on 31 points. I fancy us to beat Palace at home, and West Ham away, and I think we'll unfortunately find a way to lose all the others. Not making the most of winning positions at the start of the season is going to cost us because it's usually at the start of the season when promoted sides build up a bank of points and get those surprise results.

I agree that there really is nothing to fear in Man U, Arsenal or Spurs, but we just seem to always find a way not to beat the "name" sides. Not just this iteration, but all Villa sides I remember watching over the years.

The Spurs game on opening day looks very much like a bellweather game, and is especially annoying looking back now given how crap they've been this season. Had we held on, I think we'd be about 4-6 points better off right now, if not more.

Here's hoping for some amnesia Sunday where our players forget they're Villa playing a "name", and act like players of other clubs and simply beat a mediocre mid table side who really should not be as up for it as we are.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1501 on: February 14, 2020, 09:52:17 AM »
Bloody hell, there can be some proper negativity from our fans at times but tipping us to lose 11 of our remaining 13 games is right up there.

Offline Damo70

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1502 on: February 14, 2020, 10:03:39 AM »
Consistency has been our biggest problem, aswell as our leaky defence, but I do think we have 4 more wins in us from 13 matches.If we don't get that, then we don't deserve to stay up anyway.

It's hard to predict where those 4 wins will come from, we didn't expect to lose at Bournemouth, we didn't expect to win at Burnley so who knows. I think it will be tight, but I think we will be just about ok, and would be a marvellous achievement by Dean Smith when you throw in a cup final appearance too.

I’m really not sure we’ll need 4 wins. It’s built on the presumption it’s going to take 40 points to stay up and I don’t think that’ll be the case, so many tough games for not only but most of our rivals. I honestly think around 37 might be enough, if that’s the case 3 wins, 3 draws, leaving room for 7 defeats.

But I know nowt end of the day.


I agree, I think the magic figure of 40 points is a bit outdated. I think 37 is more likely to be the magic figure these days. The attitude and spirit also seems good compared to 1987 and 2016.

Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1503 on: February 14, 2020, 10:39:09 AM »
Quite a bold call to think we won't draw another game this season!


Offline paul_e

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1504 on: February 14, 2020, 10:47:21 AM »
40 still gets used but I agree, 37-38 is usually enough and I wouldn't be massively shocked if it's as low as 35. It's been a funny season with so many bigger clubs having a bad year (only really liverpool have excelled, even Man City have looked ropey at times) but with 4th still being possible for anyone from Wolves up I can see the 9th-10th gap getting wider as the season runs on and it ending up as a very clear top half and bottom half this year.

Online ChicagoLion

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1505 on: February 14, 2020, 03:40:25 PM »
Telegraph Football Nerd predicts we go down as we concede over 17 shots per game.

Offline RamboandBruno

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1506 on: February 15, 2020, 08:17:33 AM »
Looking at the fixtures, I think we'll end up on 31 points. I fancy us to beat Palace at home, and West Ham away, and I think we'll unfortunately find a way to lose all the others. Not making the most of winning positions at the start of the season is going to cost us because it's usually at the start of the season when promoted sides build up a bank of points and get those surprise results.

I agree that there really is nothing to fear in Man U, Arsenal or Spurs, but we just seem to always find a way not to beat the "name" sides. Not just this iteration, but all Villa sides I remember watching over the years.

The Spurs game on opening day looks very much like a bellweather game, and is especially annoying looking back now given how crap they've been this season. Had we held on, I think we'd be about 4-6 points better off right now, if not more.

Here's hoping for some amnesia Sunday where our players forget they're Villa playing a "name", and act like players of other clubs and simply beat a mediocre mid table side who really should not be as up for it as we are.

That’s up there with telling a 5 year There’s no Santa 😂

Maybe you’ll be proved right but that is unbelievably pessimistic and doesn’t really follow our form (albeit up and down) for the season so far.

Saying that I don’t think we’ll get more than say 3 wins, but a few draws as well to see us over the line. Not sure whether it’s worth predicting who we’ll beat or otherwise as this doesn’t feel like 2016, and they’ll be one or two surprises on the way, hopefully starting with tomorrow.

The stat about shots conceded is grim and stems as has been pointed out from our inconsistent midfield. However, ultimately the only real stat that will decide our results this season is goals scored and conceded, and we’re doing better than 3 other clubs currently with a game in hand

Offline myf

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1507 on: February 15, 2020, 09:19:08 AM »
we need to learn to draw games. this has been our issue.

4 wins, 3 draws, 6 defeats will do it.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1508 on: February 15, 2020, 09:22:12 AM »
Why is our form going to collapse to 2016 proportions again? What about the 3 sides below us?

Offline Luke8

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1509 on: February 15, 2020, 09:24:40 AM »
Telegraph Football Nerd predicts we go down as we concede over 17 shots per game.

That’s a bit misleading without much context though. We conceded over twenty shots against Burnley, for example, but only really one or two of them were decent goal scoring chances.

I’d also imagine that figure has improved since we changed system to three at the back.

Offline eamonn

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1510 on: February 15, 2020, 09:58:01 AM »
Have we conceded the highest xG too? Not sure how they determine an expected goal but that stat might be more revealing than letting teams take lots of potshots against us from unlikely scoring positions.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1511 on: February 15, 2020, 10:18:13 AM »
We've played 25 games, and kept 4 clean sheets.  Of course our inability to defend and keep shots out is hurting us.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1512 on: February 15, 2020, 10:19:55 AM »
just watch a game with your own eyes that will tell you if your playing well or not it’s easy

you don’t need stats to tell you how you are performing you can actually see it right in front of you

I was discussing stats with someone on here last year who was obsessed with them, every point he made was with a stat
he produced stats which showed that Hourahane was a better player than McGinn I said I’ve seen them both play mate for the last few games I know which ones the best player

Stats are a load of bollocks just there to try and prove right is wrong most of the time

Online ChicagoLion

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1513 on: February 15, 2020, 10:26:45 AM »
just watch a game with your own eyes that will tell you if your playing well or not it’s easy

you don’t need stats to tell you how you are performing you can actually see it right in front of you

I was discussing stats with someone on here last year who was obsessed with them, every point he made was with a stat
he produced stats which showed that Hourahane was a better player than McGinn I said I’ve seen them both play mate for the last few games I know which ones the best player

Stats are a load of bollocks just there to try and prove right is wrong most of the time
what I see is teams running and passing through our midfield to create chances. These stats just back that up and maybe,  indicate how big the problem is.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1514 on: February 15, 2020, 10:50:42 AM »
just watch a game with your own eyes that will tell you if your playing well or not it’s easy

you don’t need stats to tell you how you are performing you can actually see it right in front of you

I was discussing stats with someone on here last year who was obsessed with them, every point he made was with a stat
he produced stats which showed that Hourahane was a better player than McGinn I said I’ve seen them both play mate for the last few games I know which ones the best player

Stats are a load of bollocks just there to try and prove right is wrong most of the time
what I see is teams running and passing through our midfield to create chances. These stats just back that up and maybe,  indicate how big the problem is.


still don’t need stats to prove that

 


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