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Author Topic: Anyone starting to get worried?  (Read 220012 times)

Offline Villan82

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1260 on: January 19, 2020, 07:28:03 PM »
The more I look at our last fixture of the season - away at Wet Spam - the more it looks like a massive game that could mean survival or bust for either team. Or not, since they have a game in hand... but I just have a feeling.

I'm half hoping it is one of those where a draw suits both teams.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1261 on: January 19, 2020, 07:58:46 PM »
It's going to take quite a change in fortune to attain another 18 points ....every game looks tough
All the pre season optimism has deserted me !!
The manager (coach) and players really need to up the game massively .......My concern is that most other clubs seem to be able to clearly identify our weaknesses and take advantage of them whilst we seem less able to do that ourselves .....

We've taken 7 points from our last 5 league games, which extrapolated over the rest of the season would leave us with mid 40s and comfortably mid-table.

As for West Ham, their game in hand is against Liverpool.

Offline eamonn

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1262 on: January 19, 2020, 08:18:09 PM »
Surely for once we'll actually give Manure and Arsenal a game at VP. Both are in transition, even Chelsea whose away form is better than home, are still not exactly something to fear.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1263 on: January 19, 2020, 08:32:00 PM »
It's going to take quite a change in fortune to attain another 18 points ....every game looks tough
All the pre season optimism has deserted me !!
The manager (coach) and players really need to up the game massively .......My concern is that most other clubs seem to be able to clearly identify our weaknesses and take advantage of them whilst we seem less able to do that ourselves .....

We've taken 7 points from our last 5 league games, which extrapolated over the rest of the season would leave us with mid 40s and comfortably mid-table.

As for West Ham, their game in hand is against Liverpool.
I hope your extrapolation becomes reality Ads, I really do :)

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1264 on: January 19, 2020, 08:37:22 PM »
So let’s pick the 6 games we need to win.

While you’re at it pick the six games all of the other teams in the bottom eight need to win.

Offline Lastfootstamper

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1265 on: January 19, 2020, 08:39:16 PM »
It's going to take quite a change in fortune to attain another 18 points ....every game looks tough
All the pre season optimism has deserted me !!
The manager (coach) and players really need to up the game massively .......My concern is that most other clubs seem to be able to clearly identify our weaknesses and take advantage of them whilst we seem less able to do that ourselves .....

We've taken 7 points from our last 5 league games, which extrapolated over the rest of the season would leave us with mid 40s and comfortably mid-table.

As for West Ham, their game in hand is against Liverpool.

I'll take a rerun of that pivotal 90/91 fixture.

Offline rougegorge

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1266 on: January 19, 2020, 08:56:14 PM »
It's going to take quite a change in fortune to attain another 18 points ....every game looks tough
All the pre season optimism has deserted me !!
The manager (coach) and players really need to up the game massively .......My concern is that most other clubs seem to be able to clearly identify our weaknesses and take advantage of them whilst we seem less able to do that ourselves .....

We've taken 7 points from our last 5 league games, which extrapolated over the rest of the season would leave us with mid 40s and comfortably mid-table.

As for West Ham, their game in hand is against Liverpool.
We've also taken 7 points from the last 9 games and using those figures doesn't work so well. Also if you extrapolate just 1 point against the top 10 thus far, it doesn't look good, bearing in mind that we have to play 9 of them again, albeit 7 of them at home.
So stats can be read a number of ways.

Smith says that our season isn't going to be defined by our results against the top teams, but the opposite could be true, and with that way of thinking, we are just giving those teams a free pass against us.

Offline Risso

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1267 on: January 19, 2020, 09:11:59 PM »
So let’s pick the 6 games we need to win.

While you’re at it pick the six games all of the other teams in the bottom eight need to win.

Why does a team like Southampton with six more points than us need the same amount of wins?

Offline OzVilla

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1268 on: January 19, 2020, 09:19:27 PM »
I've amended now as moved Bournemouth up to easiest away fixture left

Home fixtures in difficultly level don't seem impossible
Watford
Spurs
Man Utd
Arsenal
Palace
Wolves
Sheffield Utd
Chelsea

Wolves is the toughest game there for me. All the others perfectly winnable.

Offline RamboandBruno

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1269 on: January 19, 2020, 09:20:55 PM »
It's going to take quite a change in fortune to attain another 18 points ....every game looks tough
All the pre season optimism has deserted me !!
The manager (coach) and players really need to up the game massively .......My concern is that most other clubs seem to be able to clearly identify our weaknesses and take advantage of them whilst we seem less able to do that ourselves .....

We've taken 7 points from our last 5 league games, which extrapolated over the rest of the season would leave us with mid 40s and comfortably mid-table.

As for West Ham, their game in hand is against Liverpool.
We've also taken 7 points from the last 9 games and using those figures doesn't work so well. Also if you extrapolate just 1 point against the top 10 thus far, it doesn't look good, bearing in mind that we have to play 9 of them again, albeit 7 of them at home.
So stats can be read a number of ways.

Smith says that our season isn't going to be defined by our results against the top teams, but the opposite could be true, and with that way of thinking, we are just giving those teams a free pass against us.

Think he said our season wouldn’t be defined by games against Man City, after last weeks battering, not all the top teams, maybe I have that wrong.

Either way, we don’t know know how the second half of the season will pan out. To me on current form it looks like Norwich and Bournemouth are going to go, with the last place between us, Brighton, Burnley, possibly Watford and possibly West Ham. But one or two teams could get a couple of wins and confidence and go on a run. Hopefully that will be us starting on tuesday.

I still think despite their win yesterday, Newcastle are capable of losing another 4 or 5vin a row & being dragged into this. Also whatever the performance yesterday it was a much better result for us than Brighton

Offline David_Nab

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1270 on: January 19, 2020, 09:25:27 PM »
Surely for once we'll actually give Manure and Arsenal a game at VP. Both are in transition, even Chelsea whose away form is better than home, are still not exactly something to fear.

Bournmouth , Newcastle and West Ham all have wins V Chelsea so we shouldn't fear them ...or though in the away game they won fairly easily.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1271 on: January 19, 2020, 10:22:08 PM »
There's no point picking 'must wins.'  We'll lose games we should win but hopefully pick up points we don't expect.  Newcastle & Buŕnley wouldn't have been expecting 3 points this weekend and we need to pick up a few results like that if we hope to survive.

Right now we're 1 point for safety whilst navigating a period of massive disruption due to injuries.  Hopefully we'll have new players in place over the next two weeks and will hit a decent run in Feb or March.  It's going to be tight, but then it always was.  But the fat lass is a long way from singing yet.

Up the fucking Villa.

Offline Villan82

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1272 on: January 19, 2020, 11:00:20 PM »
Draw the next two and maybe 4 more wins with a draw or two may yet be enough?  (based on thinking, last week, that we needed about 5-6 wins)

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1273 on: January 19, 2020, 11:49:43 PM »
All this predicting how many we need, remember the same applies to the other teams in and around it too.

Offline Villan82

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #1274 on: January 19, 2020, 11:51:07 PM »
All this predicting how many we need, remember the same applies to the other teams in and around it too.

It's natural, it has always been a thing. When the league had more clubs the target used to be 40 points.

 


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