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Author Topic: Anyone starting to get worried?  (Read 219865 times)

Offline Risso

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #840 on: December 14, 2019, 10:13:36 PM »
Wilder is also a much better manager than Smith.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #841 on: December 14, 2019, 10:15:08 PM »
Sheff Utd have spent 87p to go from midtable in division 3 to top 5 in the PL in just over 3 years.

Offline hilts_coolerking

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #842 on: December 14, 2019, 10:16:53 PM »
Sheff Utd have spent 87p to go from midtable in division 3 to top 5 in the PL in just over 3 years.
Yes but they spent it well.

Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #843 on: December 14, 2019, 10:32:51 PM »
It's worth remembering many of these players have not played at this level before or very limited experience. We may have signed some of them for big money but bang average players go for at least 15m these days as Targett is showing. Guy couldn't even get in a poor Southampton team regularly in last two seasons.

Hause was a back up CB at Wolves who didn't play when they went up, Lansbury hardly played in prem at other clubs and settled in championship.

We have signed some good players but most were just punts from abroad or lower end here. Now if we'd signed 4-5 with the top level experience that Heaton does I'd be much more disappointed as the expectation would be greater then. Like it was in the MON days when we had an 11 full of solid internationals.

This is why January is crucial to me. Not just to stay up but to build for the next 18 months. We need to up our transfer sights a little imo and go after proven international class players.

Wolves signed Neves, Moutinho and Raul Jimenez and they are thriving at prem level and in europa with those three the heartbeat once they cross the halfway line.

It's surely not too much to ask to sign players of that standard?
Not easy to recruit Prem quality players when you are sitting just above the relegation zone.

We signed Darren Bent when we were bottom 3 weren't we? Also signed Carew when we were in bottom half in 2007. Robbie Keane aswell in 2012 when we were probably floating around 12th given it was the Mcleish year.

Three international quality forwards who helped improved us when they came in so that's the standard we should be looking at.

People are saying we're going to be challenging for europe in a year or two. We need to raise the bar in signings if we're really going to do that.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #844 on: December 14, 2019, 10:40:17 PM »
Bent was the one that came to mind.

Surely if we are looking to stay up this year then go crazy next year using the ridiculous resources at our disposal we aren't a hard sell.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #845 on: December 14, 2019, 11:39:26 PM »
The more I think the more I can’t decide where the real issue is. Is Wesley shit or unsupported? Is smith letting the players down or are they letting him down? Maybe it’s a bit of everything which is the really worrying thing.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #846 on: December 14, 2019, 11:48:36 PM »
Wes simply isn't good enough to start week in week out. I'm convinced at every other club he'd be a back up. He's simply not better than likes of Ings, Deeney, Pukki so wouldn't be a starter at those clubs.

He reminds me of Kozak. Big and gangly and can poach a few goals but overall not good enough to be a regular starter. Kozak started a few when Benteke picked up injuries but was largely a squad striker before his unfortunate injury and that's what Wesley should've been but we messed up the decision on Maupay and then didn't pursue a replacement.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #847 on: December 15, 2019, 12:50:56 AM »
Even when we were playing ok, Wes was still shit. He really is hopeless.

Offline Drummond

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #848 on: December 15, 2019, 01:21:32 AM »
No.

Offline Axl Rose

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #849 on: December 15, 2019, 01:40:35 AM »
After watching yesterday's game, a bit more than I was a few weeks ago.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #850 on: December 15, 2019, 01:53:10 AM »
All the teams at the bottom appear to be playing better than us, the team seems to have lost its spirit and togetherness, Jack may well be looking to next season already.

Offline West Derby Villan

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #851 on: December 15, 2019, 12:18:37 PM »
No

Offline olaftab

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #852 on: December 15, 2019, 12:33:23 PM »
We are on the brink now. We have absolutely squeezed the pips out of our 5 goals against Norwich to stay out of bottom 3. We need MINIMUM 4 points from our next two games otherwise we will be in the horrific dog fight for the rest of the season.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #853 on: December 15, 2019, 12:34:34 PM »
17th will do for me. I think we will scrape 16th.

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Re: Anyone starting to get worried?
« Reply #854 on: December 15, 2019, 03:11:53 PM »
It's a sobering thought that we won't even be able to scrape 20 points by the halfway point.

However, it will be just the halfway point and any talk of being 'on the brink' is a bit premature.

 


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