Now FFP is suspended no. We go down, we spend the living fuck out of the other 23 no marks we're slumming it with.

Is that confirmed, no FFP if we go down?  I guess we lose Grealish, Mings and SJM and have plenty to spend anyway.

I never get why an incident a few mins before half time means it would be the final score. We may have gone on to lose but the second half would have been different to how it was if the goal had been given.

I never get why an incident a few mins before half time means it would be the final score. We may have gone on to lose but the second half would have been different to how it was if the goal had been given.

We never ever came back from 3-0 last season to these either did we? Nah, must have dreamt it.

In all honesty, I can't see us staying up. There just doesn't seem to be anything extra to offer, and I can't see where a win is likely to come from.
Yesterday was only a point due to an error with the officials - yes we got a point, however in reality we lost the game as they got the ball over the line once more than we did. We got lucky, that's all.

What did we get at Palace? Or is it only us that gets lucky?

Watched yesterday - we played some nice neat football, but in truth SU were more incisive and really, all our problems showed up again - comical defending (Hause and Nyland in particular), lack of creativity in midfield, woeful finishing (Davis really must learn to put chances away).

I think we are down - cannot see (even with the most optimistic glasses on) where 14 points is coming from in 9 games so ...... big summer coming up (how many times have we said that) - parachute payment means we MUST return fast - if we do, and do so well, then future can still be bright but if the panic sets in and we take too short term a view again, we are destined to remain in the funk.

14 ?!
How about 11-13 points
Ok I can say we probably need more than 36 points because of goal difference so it's more than 10 PTS needed but I don't think 40

37/38/39 pts could well do it.

It's a tall order to get 14 points. And 40pts shouldn't be needed generally.
That isn't actually the benchmark and very few seasons teams in prem need that many points.

However remains to be seen how conditions suit the other bottom teams but it's to say the tally to stay up is around 36/37/38pts
40pts is a myth that some still tout around and it's inaccurate.

We do need over a point a game. That's one thing that seems the case.
Take 3 wins and 4 draws . 13pts.

Just losing to Liverpool and Man Utd then.

Looking rather bleak if we don't get something out of Chelsea match but small hopes as more match fit than them , having played a game already , can get points .

Looking at our fixtures I think our last four aren't bad. Could be that Palace, Everton, Arsenal have nothing to play for and are going through the motions. Potential six pointer on the last day against West Ham.

Those could be the four wins we need although obviously prefer to get them sooner rather than later!

How can anyone say with a straight face that in reality, we lost the game when we didn't? It comes to something when being miserable stretches to faking results.

Quote from: PeterWithesShin on June 18, 2020, 11:39:12 PM

I never get why an incident a few mins before half time means it would be the final score. We may have gone on to lose but the second half would have been different to how it was if the goal had been given.

Indeed. Anything could have happened, however we can only judge what was presented to us, and that was what I commented on.

There have always been mistakes from officials that have impacted on results. It’s only due to it being a new type of cock-up involving technology that this one has been seen as different when in reality it’s no different to things like incorrect offsides or missed penalty decisions.

Over the course of the game we were the better team so a win for them would not have been a fair reflection.