Quote from: Risso on December 01, 2020, 08:50:31 AMQuote from: dave.woodhall on December 01, 2020, 12:39:03 AMI'm going to be saying this forever now, because once I think of (more likely steal) a good point I hammer it home remorselessly so here goes:When a decision is so millimetre-close how in the name of God can the exact split-second the ball is kicked possibly be judged?It's a good point. Another one is why they decided that any other decision such as penalties have to be "clear and obvious" to keep the flow and the intensity of the game going, but offsides have to be exact to the nearest millimetre which can take a few minutes to ascertain. Why can't offsides have the clear and obvious rule as well? If they have to use their lines, then it's not clear and obvious, and the goal stands.I’ve just made that exact point on the phone to my mate. If it takes numerous lines to be drawn and redrawn on a screen before a decision can be reached then that is totally against the spirit of the game. It is a technology brought in to supposedly reduce controversy around big decisions but it has delivered the complete opposite.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on December 01, 2020, 12:39:03 AMI'm going to be saying this forever now, because once I think of (more likely steal) a good point I hammer it home remorselessly so here goes:When a decision is so millimetre-close how in the name of God can the exact split-second the ball is kicked possibly be judged?It's a good point. Another one is why they decided that any other decision such as penalties have to be "clear and obvious" to keep the flow and the intensity of the game going, but offsides have to be exact to the nearest millimetre which can take a few minutes to ascertain. Why can't offsides have the clear and obvious rule as well? If they have to use their lines, then it's not clear and obvious, and the goal stands.
I'm going to be saying this forever now, because once I think of (more likely steal) a good point I hammer it home remorselessly so here goes:When a decision is so millimetre-close how in the name of God can the exact split-second the ball is kicked possibly be judged?
It's another example of what's wrong with football that technology is successfully used in other sports but the football powers that be think they can do it better and in the process fuck it up.For offsides rugby is the best example - look at how they handle forward passes in the build up to a try. If there's a question mark over it, the video ref tells the on field ref to have another look. They stick it on the big screen for all to see, the mics pick up the refs thinking, no daft lines and unless it's an obvious forward pass the try stands.It's that fucking simple!
In fact, for VAR offside decisions you don’t need referees, ex referees or anybody associated with football. You need People with O level maths who are proficient at operating and interpreting measuring equipment.
Quote from: Brend'Watkins on December 01, 2020, 01:56:05 PMIn fact, for VAR offside decisions you don’t need referees, ex referees or anybody associated with football. You need People with O level maths who are proficient at operating and interpreting measuring equipment.And on field you don't need a qualified referee you just need an actor who can follow instructions and is good at pointing and waving.
GPS in the little device they all wear on their backs would at least identify if the torso of the player is on/offside. What has the game come to that we are discussing that though.
It would be interesting if they reset the poll at the top of this page. I'd be amazed if more that 5% are still in favour.