Quote from: sickbeggar on September 21, 2020, 11:38:33 AMMy view is there is an added psychological effect on the players having a decision overturned by VAR. So getting a player sent off by the ref will have less effect on a team than a player than getting a yellow and then VAR changing it to red. Likewise, a goal being allowed/dis-allowed and then VAR changing the decision. Think I will closely follow our interactions with VAR this season, and see if the theory has any legs..I think you're wrong. Also, lots of VAR decisions will be made by the ref at the monitor now, so any previously perceived impact will be lesst.
My view is there is an added psychological effect on the players having a decision overturned by VAR. So getting a player sent off by the ref will have less effect on a team than a player than getting a yellow and then VAR changing it to red. Likewise, a goal being allowed/dis-allowed and then VAR changing the decision. Think I will closely follow our interactions with VAR this season, and see if the theory has any legs..
hah, well maybe i'm just a good guesser then. I wonder how many teams have come back and won from an overturned VAR decision that penalised them as opposed to a decision give by a referee that penalised them?
Quote from: sickbeggar on September 21, 2020, 11:30:14 AMhah, well maybe i'm just a good guesser then. I wonder how many teams have come back and won from an overturned VAR decision that penalised them as opposed to a decision give by a referee that penalised them?Us against Brighton last year
Quote from: LeeB on September 21, 2020, 01:06:47 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on September 21, 2020, 11:30:14 AMhah, well maybe i'm just a good guesser then. I wonder how many teams have come back and won from an overturned VAR decision that penalised them as opposed to a decision give by a referee that penalised them?Us against Brighton last yearLiverpool against us as well
Quote from: chrisw1 on September 21, 2020, 01:03:22 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on September 21, 2020, 11:38:33 AMMy view is there is an added psychological effect on the players having a decision overturned by VAR. So getting a player sent off by the ref will have less effect on a team than a player than getting a yellow and then VAR changing it to red. Likewise, a goal being allowed/dis-allowed and then VAR changing the decision. Think I will closely follow our interactions with VAR this season, and see if the theory has any legs..I think you're wrong. Also, lots of VAR decisions will be made by the ref at the monitor now, so any previously perceived impact will be lesst.Depends if the ref makes a decision and then its overruled like the Chelsea game. That's what i'm gonna keep an eye on - decisions we benefit/suffer from that weren't originally given by the ref. I think its human nature that it effects you more if you have something taken away that you thought you'd kept ,rather than just taken away by the original decision. It works well in cricket because the umpires hasn't made a decision first
Quote from: sickbeggar on September 21, 2020, 01:05:18 PMQuote from: chrisw1 on September 21, 2020, 01:03:22 PMQuote from: sickbeggar on September 21, 2020, 11:38:33 AMMy view is there is an added psychological effect on the players having a decision overturned by VAR. So getting a player sent off by the ref will have less effect on a team than a player than getting a yellow and then VAR changing it to red. Likewise, a goal being allowed/dis-allowed and then VAR changing the decision. Think I will closely follow our interactions with VAR this season, and see if the theory has any legs..I think you're wrong. Also, lots of VAR decisions will be made by the ref at the monitor now, so any previously perceived impact will be lesst.Depends if the ref makes a decision and then its overruled like the Chelsea game. That's what i'm gonna keep an eye on - decisions we benefit/suffer from that weren't originally given by the ref. I think its human nature that it effects you more if you have something taken away that you thought you'd kept ,rather than just taken away by the original decision. It works well in cricket because the umpires hasn't made a decision firstThe umpire does make a decision first and the teams have an opportunity to review it.
I think I watched a few games last season where the team in the ascendancy had a goal chalked off by VAR and went on to capitulate afterwards.